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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Latin vs. DCI debate is kind of silly. Latin (and BASIS) is mostly full of kids who went through DCPS elementary schools (happily) and chose not to lottery into the DCI feeders. I'm happy DCI is working out for those families, but the need to insult Latin makes no sense. Very few families are actively making that choice in 5th/6th grade -- it's done. The choice was made much, much earlier. They are choosing between Latin, BASIS, privates or moving to the Deal/Hardy zone.

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Agree. We unsuccessfully tried to lottery our kids into what are now called DCI feeders for years. But at some point, we stopped because a native English speaker joining an immersion program from a non-immersion program from about third grade on makes no sense. We never tried for DCI because we weren’t coming from immersion or a feeder. We did throw our hat in for Latin, BASIS because there was no language immersion hurdle.

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Incorrect.  You can attend DCI with no language background.

Also many CH BTW try to lottery into 6th if they strike out in 5th[/quote]

How can you get into DCI without coming from a feeder?

Why would you?

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There are spots for non-feeders but less each year as the school continues to get better every year and most feeder kids track.  No chance to get in for spanish track but you have a chance for French or Chinese.  They have language 101 classes for these kids.

Doing well in an IB diploma absolutely makes you stand out among the dime a dozen kids doing AP courses.  It also gives you so much more flexibility in college options abroad where IB is the accepted.  BTW good abroad programs are much, much less expensive then in the states.  Lastly, there is a heavy focus on writing in addition to mini-thesis requirement,  and these kids typically are much stronger writers.

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Also they multiple levels of math tracking with the highest basically taking AP Calculus in 10th and post Calculus math for 11th and 12th with 2 different levels in each class - standard and high level.[/quote]

I have looked, but I have yet to find, a college or university math department that gives post-calculus credit for any score on any IB math exam. Most seem to treat even HL IB math as equivalent to AP Calc AB. And few give any credit at all for SL IB math.

That doesn’t mean IB math is bad. It might be beneficial for students who accelerated young to repeat basic algebra and calculus concepts in a different format. IB math seems to be an adequate substitute for AP math if you have to pick one. And IB math allows you to get an IB diploma. But if you actually want “post-calculus” math, you should be looking at dual enrollment in actual post-calculus math courses, not messing around with IB. [/quote]

I think, going forward, universities are just going to be less likely grant credit for AP math classes and more likely to just let you take a more advanced class. This is already true for BC where, if you want to be a math major or engineering, you tend to get put into a more advanced multi variate rather than get a pass out of multi variate. Universities just can’t trust the training, and an AP score isn’t necessary and sufficient to assume kids don’t have something foundational and important. [/quote]

BC isn’t multi variable calculus so of course it doesn’t get you credit.  Your argument doesn’t really make sense.[/quote]

Yeah, but there is something there. I used my BC calc score to test out of the first two semesters of calc and was put in multi variate, and I had to drop the class because I was lost (and I was an excellent math student up until that point). I would have been much better served by retaking Calc. This was at a state flagship. Maybe husband went to a much better college and they made everyone retake calc there and now he works in STEM.

Not to say that it's not very valuable to take the highest levels of math in high school -- but maybe not for the point of skipping ahead.[/quote]

Virtually every college now gives a math placement exam to newly-enrolled students, no matter what courses you have credit for. It’s all the same software, related to Delta math I think. If you’re a history major you can use AP/IB credits to satisfy a distribution requirement but to continue in the sequence you have to pass the placement exam.[/quote]

NP, I don’t need my kid to get college credit for BC.  What I need is for him to be in advance math and challenged, and it be taught well.  Then he will be prepared and have some background if he takes it in college.

The end point is not college credit, esp past Calculus, for majority of families here on DCUM who are overwhelmingly UMC and above.  It’s having kids be appropriately placed in a class based on their abilities and not the equity BS and dumbing down education that is happening in this town.

Bravo to DCI for having the capabilities to offer multiple levels of math starting early in middle school.  I don’t think any other school EOTP offers this.[/quote]

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