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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Ge[b][/b]ed][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Went through sorority rush back in the 90s at an Ivy. The process was crushing to some of my friends who didn’t match at their preferred house. I got into my top choice house, but I found it remarkably unfulfilling. Many of my “sisters” are still friends and I see them getting together for wine tours and things on FB. I will encourage my DC to avoid schools with Greek Life or at least look for a low percentage who rush/pledge, because there can be a perception that you will be left out socially if it seems most of your friends are rushing. My friend group ended up being centered around a shared interest rather than just the alcohol and hook-up culture of Greek Life, so I spent less and less time at the sorority house until I deactivated entirely. I’d rather have my kid attend college and live at home than pay huge dollars to be on their own in that setting. The girls I met were smart and high achievers, but I realized I’m not a “joiner” just for a social scene. I’d rather get to know people in a more organic way. Good luck to your DC. Certain personality types are better cut out for Greek Life than others. [/quote]

I have an almost identical story but my DD has her heart set on schools with big Greek systems and rushing so sometimes the kids don’t listen to their parents![/quote]

I think back and regret my Greek time. Yes, I had fun and made friends, but I wonder what I would have accomplished if I hadn't been focused on getting drunk at parties almost every night. My niece joined a sorority and promptly failed out of school. I won't be encouraging my kids to rush, I just think it is a fast ticket to wasting your time at college.[/quote]

This is how I feel too. I did use it for leadership stuff, but also drank heavily Thursday-Saturday at a minimum. Have a kid at at T10 and she’s done more in her first semester it feels like than I did in 4 years. I went to a good school and I wasted a lot of it. [/quote]

Stop sororities and fraternities tend to have higher GPA than rest of schools. If you were a pattern you would have partied. I had plenty of wild non greek friends and they partied more than me.
Just not my thing to drink. Those kids didn’t want to have to go to meetings and do extra philanthropy and grade pressure. My guess is you would have done worse because that is how you rolled. [/quote]

[b]That’s not accurate.  Some fraternities do well academically and some do poorly academically.[/b]  It all depends.   Fraternities are not all alike.   Certain fraternities have massive alcohol and date rape problems. Others don’t.

The saddest sororities are the Southern ones that aren’t allowed to have the same freedoms as the fraternities.  Men can’t go in their bedrooms.  No alcohol allowed.   They need to dress up at all times.  Pink is a preferred color.  They are segregated by race. The rigidity. It’s like they are setting themselves up to be a perfect hostess for their successful husbands who may or may not be faithful. [/quote]

Do you know how averages work?

The AVERAGE fraternity man's GPA is higher than the AVERAGE ge[b][/b]ed's GPA.

On almost every campus.

That is a fact.[/quote]

It's just a proxy for income level. This is also a fact. I'd rather my dd date from a pool with a lower average GPA and not get raped or deal with toxic masculinity. It's douchey. Period.[/quote]

There is some truth to the notion that fraternity members are more likely to commit date rape.  College athletes are similarly more likely to commit date rape.  Some of it is that they go on more dates than others but a lot of it is that they are more likely to be sexually entitled guys.  They think they are entitled to sex.  These sort of guys are not that hard to spot but women seem to find them desirable and compete for them, which is probably where they get their sense of entitlement.[/quote]

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