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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Posters keep saying 'demonstrate interest' as if most ambitious students don't know/ don't do that. These kids are clicking on emails daily and keeping zoom sessions running while they watch Game of Thrones.

This is the hoop jumping generation. Yield protectors may be able to eliminate a small minority of applicants with this hurdle, but I can't imagine it's that useful to them.  The mid-tier schools make educated guesses about which students will be accepted at higher tier schools, and reject or WL them.

Since just about every private mid-tier school yield protects, it seems, the only way to avoid them is make sure to apply to at least one large public?[/quote]

Yup!  A good example is case western.  The campus is filled with kids who all applied to several "higher ranked schools" and would be attending those schools had they been admitted.  Some years, Case pulls a very high amount from their Wait List.  Other years it's 0.  They have a yield calculation problem---because they are at that spot where--"it's a great school, but there are many other top schools most would rather attend, and many don't want to end up in Cleveland".  So they know those who apply who are above the 75% for case stats are 95%+ also applying to several T25-30 schools.  They know many will get accepted at one or more of those schools and many will choose that school over case.  So for them, it's a hard time to calculate who will actually attend.  They do NOT want to have to fill 50% of the freshman class from the waitlist (yet it happens some years).  That is an issue several schools in the 35-50 range have.  [/quote]

If Case Western is so worried about its yield then maybe it should try to get into T25-30.

[b][There is nothing CWRU can do to get into the T25-30. Same goes for other schools in the T51-100. They are what they are.][/b]

It can also clearly tell students that if they have a GPA of 3.8+ and SAT score above 1500 etc. then they don’t need to bother applying.

[b][Kids with those scores who want to attend CWRU should apply ED. If they don't, it's because they're trying to better-deal CWRU. That's perfectly understandable, but it's also perfectly understandable for CWRU, which knows what they're doing, not to offer them admission.][/b]

Not doubt any of those and having students pay the application fee to only reject them thinking they won’t attend is idiotic at best.

[b][If you want to attend and don't want to "waste" your fee then apply ED.][/b]

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Not everyone is financially able to apply ED.[/quote]

Do you understand Case Western?  If you did, you would know that Case will provide an extremely accurate FA and Merit aid package for any student interested in ED1 or ED2.  They want top students who want Case.  Call the AO, ask to discuss financials and you will get the details.  Then you can decide if you can afford Case.  If so, apply ED1/ED2.  If not, then no need to apply

They give excellent merit and will let you know how much you will be getting.  [/quote]

We didn’t have to do any of that and kid still got accepted with $40.5k merit. It’s about having the opportunity to review all the merit and FA packages, not just understanding one school’s offer. [/quote]

Well if you must "compare all the merit and FA packages" from multiple schools, then you might miss out on some.  If case offers you to switch to ED2 and you don't the odds of getting anything more than a WL is almost NIL.    So if you want the ability to shop around, then surely you must understand the reverse--that colleges want the opportunity to lock in committed students and if they give you the highest merit award and you still "dont' know if you can afford it" then most likely you cannot.  But you don't get to have it both ways.  They do more than most---they give a written merit and FA offer and basically tell you---if you switch you are getting admitted with this offer.

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I don’t disagree that an ED strategy can work for some, maybe even many. But for those of us having to consider multiple merit offers ED isn’t always an option.

Northeastern also sent a financial pre-read and asked about switching to ED; kid is staying EA.

A one size strategy doesn’t work for everyone and in this case, a high stats kid got accepted  to Case via EA and offered generous merit. So it’s not always NIL. Sometimes it works![/quote]

Sure sometimes it works but if they basically tell you, here is our offer, are you ready to commit and you say let me think about it and stay ea/rd, they typically reject or put on a WL [/quote]

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