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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is exactly it and the point of the post. It is fear mongering. And unfortunately it works. The much bigger threat to middle class and LMC is corporate greed, no worker protections, no safety nets, and of course climate devastation that will make living in previously affordable areas dangerous and unaffordable. But let’s ignore all of that and focus on these ‘criminal’ immigrants stealing from us and eating our pets. [/quote]

What a patronizing post. Mass illegal immigration is a threat to the jobs and wages of blue collar workers, even Bernie Sanders admitted it before the Democrats went crazy by supporting open borders. Importing large numbers of impoverished, uneducated, low wage, non-English speaking migrants into a community has a tremendous negative effect on that community. I’ve seen it in the city I live in. The schools are terrible and full of ELL, housing prices are very high, car insurance rates keep rising, etc. I want to move, but I have no confidence that the Democrats won’t flood my new community and school system with more indigent migrants. I have no problem with legal immigration of people who have skills we need, speak English and are able to provide for themselves. I am tremendously against mass illegal immigration of unskilled migrants into the country. Liberals have disregarded people’s concerns over immigration and then turn around and wonder why Donald Trump has so much support. People disliking Democrat economic and immigration policies are why he has so much support, but you just turn around and insult all of us who support him while diminishing our concerns. [/quote]

Please post the link where Bernie sanders said illegal immigrants were taking blue collar jobs from American workers. What any one on the planet earth knows is that it’s very different. Immigrants are performing important work that Americans simply do not want to do. Who do you think is picking your fruit? Or defending forest fires? We need immigration- and no, not just highly skilled workers like you claim (although as we know, many immigrants arrive who are trained and skilled, but do menial jobs in the US for a time).

You are purposely obtuse and a manipulative liar. [/quote]

https://youtu.be/vf-k6qOfXz0?si=v_Jnw6003fTaud8v

Bernie Sanders used to be against illegal immigration, saying it makes Americans poorer and ends America as a nation-state.

I don’t believe illegal immigrants are doing jobs Americans won’t do in many instances.[b] I have never heard of Americans being willing to do construction work, for example. [/b]I think they are doing these jobs at wages Americans can’t accept and can’t live on. Companies are hiring illegal immigrants out of greed. [/quote]

+1. Americans will do any job, for the right wage. I know this from experience/seeing the jobs filled 100% by Americans growing up in a small town with a very low illegal alien population. And to the poster(s) demanding that people cite how illegal immigration has impacted them personally - what an inane notion. I don't have to be personally impacted by murder to be against it.[/quote]

Please tell me how Americans you know from your small town would do any job for the right wage- what were those jobs exactly? And please also explain to me how those 'right wages' affected the ultimate cost of the goods or services being provided? And the effect on whether consumers were then willing to pay for those products and services at that price? I'm waiting...  
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Any job you can think of, you horrid shrew. Gas station clerks, line cooks, janitors, factory workers, tree trimmers, etc. Everyone I grew up with was a blue collar worker. I don't know how much every single person was getting paid, I just know they weren't getting undercut by illegal alien, under the table labor. Consumers were willing to pay for their labor because -- wait for it -- they didn't have any other choice. You obviously have no idea what it's like to live in small town America.

Hope I didn't keep you waiting too long. [/quote]

+1 I grew up in a rural farming area of the upper Midwest. Scattered very small towns with several “larger towns” of 25K ish nearby. I’m 45. The only immigrants I ever heard of worked at the meat packing plant a few towns over. Factory work and other blue collar services were good full time jobs. Restaurant and retail type work was mostly teens, people between jobs, moms working part time, etc. A lot of farmers or farmer’s wives also picked up part time work to supplement farm income (bus drivers, lunch ladies, handyman or other work that was paid by the job, a few shifts per week at the gas station or whatever). Almost every teen had a part time job of some sort  once they were 16. Everything got done. [/quote]

Plenty of Americans work construction. I just spent 4 months in Montana. Virtually every construction job is held by Americans. 
There is a lot of construction going on in the state now.  Also, everytime I fly out of Montana at least 20-25% of the seats on the plane are filled by men (Americans) flying to Texas to work construction jobs.

I also spend a lot of time in the eastern shore of Md and stay at a Hampton Inn.  On all of my stays there are a lot of American men, both white and African American, working commercial/government construction jobs on the Eastern Shore.  They are generally South Carolinians and North Carolinians who commute to their construction jobs on the Eastern Shore.

Interestingly I never ran into any construction workers from Baltimore City working on the Eastern Shore.

While I'm talking about the Eastern Shore, famers regularly picked up factory jobs on the Eastern Shore and were considered good reliable workers.  Sadly, most of these factory jobs left the area in the 1990s and are now done in China or Mexico.[/quote]

And what is your family of origin? Are you Native American? If not, then what exactly are you arguing over? [/quote]

Do you really think this is an effective, “gotcha” retort?  No wonder democrats are losing on this issue.  [/quote]

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