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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This makes me sad that people are really arguing for keeping a grandma from her grandkid. My mom is the most gentle and kind person ever, but grew up in a culture where giving swats was a thing (and where people who were swat as kids do grow up to be kind and productive members of society). My mom would swat us as kids (never hard) but just as a way of saying "no." I made it very clear that we don't do that today with kids in the US and she has never swat my dd, but sometimes older people need to learn these things, especially when they come from different cultures. [/quote]
And yet, somehow your mom has learned this [i]without[/i] having to hit your child first. So it's not some sort of "coming of age in the USA" or some shit, clearly it's possible. Why are we giving violence a pass just because it's some old person? [/quote]

Calling swatting "violence" is exactly the kind of catastrophizing and extremist language that makes me sad on behalf of society today.[/quote]
Trying to downplay violence by calling it "swatting" instead of "hitting" is the kind of justification of behavior that stops DV victims from realizing that their relationships are violent. I'm also sad on behalf of society, because who are the people shooting up schools? The kids who are abused at home.

It's telling, that people are uncomfortable saying they "hit" their children. Because that is bad, everyone knows you don't hit other people. But all of a sudden you call it "tapping" or "swatting" and it's totally fine! It's still hitting. It's still teaching children that their parents/grandparents use violence against them to get them to do what they want.

No one (besides the trolls) are telling OP to lock up grandma. What we are saying is that this can escalate, and if grandma is not equipped to handle a preschooler [i]without resorting to violence[/i], then she should not be babysitting the child. If other parents are fine with grandparents hitting their children, well that's their parenting style. But OP clearly does not agree, and does not want grandma hitting her kid. [/quote]

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