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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] If you genuinely believe Bias Victim deserves a spot at Selective U., what is Victim's game plan once admitted? To major in dance? How will Selective U. be any different that Biased Public Schools with respect to offering teaching "styles" AND evaluation of material that is not "biased"? [/quote] The game plan is to receive affirmative action in perpertuity for life. This actually happens. The underqualified URM who gets into a selective college, gets another bump in medical school affirmative action for bombing the MCAT and having a low science GPA, and then another bump for residency and another bump during hiring. It never ends. [/quote] Dude. You people really live in fantasy land. And are so hateful I can't understand. And uninformed. I won't say unintelligent because even smart people can be raging bigots.[/quote] Not the PP, but my company leadership explicitly told us to lower the bar for black candidates when hiring. Explicitly. [/quote] They did not. What bar? [/quote] Are the people denying the open secret in academics and the professional world really that clueless? Do you work outside your home? Of COURSE, standards are routinely lowered, and it starts with our friend upthread whose daughter scored 1290 and got into Georgetown. There are only a few thousand black students graduating each year who have even met the baseline of "college prepared." Those who meet those benchmarks are admitted by the elite institutions, but as you go down the rankings, those schools still need to show a diverse class, and kids who truly do not belong in college are admitted. Because of lack of preparation and "mismatch" between preparation and IQ with the rest of the student body, the graduation rates for blacks are much lower, making the pool of students available to create diverse classes in grad schools and corporate hiring classes even lower, and these institutions reach further down the rankings to fill classes. There are innumerable internship programs for minority students at all of our elite corporations trying to compete for these kids as early as possible. [/quote] Um, can you please show us the statistics for students of color not graduating from these top universities. Please. I am the "friend" from above. Shall I reiterate, that 3 semesters in, she had a 3.9 GPA, and is on track to have another 3.9 this semester. Plenty of her classmates who are also students of color--and some of them athletes as well--are thriving. You are making these things up to support your racist garbage.[/quote] I did not pinpoint graduation rates at top universities. They are admitting the black students of highest caliber, and have the resources to provide all kinds of supports, including special summer sessions to remediate skills. Here are plenty of statistics on the racial graduation rates. https://uncf.org/the-latest/african-americans-and-college-education-by-the-numbers https://nces.ed.gov/programs/raceindicators/indicator_red.asp https://hechingerreport.org/%E2%80%8B%E2%80%8Bwhy-white-students-are-250-more-likely-to-graduate-than-black-students-at-public-universities/ Lots of reviews of "mismatch" studies, both pro and con: https://manhattan.institute/article/does-affirmative-action-lead-to-mismatch [/quote] Of course you didn't "pinpoint" grad rates of top universities, because you can't find any evidence. The graduation rate of students of color is mixed in consistently, and especially in the stupid links your provided, with first gen, and the top reason for not graduating is cost. You left that little piece out of your weak attempt to defend your disgusting racism. You seem to accept that students of color who are accepted to at least the top colleges graduate because they were "top caliber" in the first place, but then still need to say they require extra supports--simply because they're Black. I know you never will, but you seriously need to check yourself. Be honest, did you even go to college yourself?[/quote]
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