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Reply to "Anyone following the viral Harvard University *Extension School* controversy?"
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We know he took the back door. He knows it. Harvard Lite. Pathetic. [/quote] Harvard is selling out, that's what's pathetic. Cheapening their own brand.[/quote] Naw. It’s the representation on his part. He knows he didn’t do the real Harvard. He did Harvard Lite. That’s fine. Nothing wrong with that. Just don’t represent it like you did the full Harvard. [/quote] Look if you know people like this you can figure out with a few questions what kind of program they actually did. Then you know what they know.[/quote] ???[/quote] What's not understood? If you know people who say they went to Harvard and you ask what they studied, you will find out what program. If you think a degree from the extension school is "Harvard Lite" then you can sneer at them that it wasn't "the full Harvard." It's not a secret. I know people who have done these courses and they don't try to pretend it's anything else but they do say then went to Harvard (even if it was all online).[/quote] I can't imagine saying "I went to Harvard" if my degree was from the extension school. Look, the real sure way to know that someone went to Harvard is if they tell you they went to school in Boston. Maybe I just hold myself to higher standards. [/quote] The people I know with these degrees have many degrees from lots of schools. They just decide to further learning in an area of interest, but they already have what you would consider full degrees from prestigious universities. They have law degrees, MBAs, etc but they wanted another notch in their belt, it's not really a big deal since it's not the only degree they have.[/quote] For folks going on and on about merit, this seems to be a fairly weak answer and an ambiguous standard. [/quote] Who do you think gets these degrees? It's usually older people who already have at least one degree or more already. Such as Rufo. Where would the con be? Arguably these degrees don't really offer much benefit to the students. Can you really change careers after a short course?[/quote] so all good with misrepresenting here, but not when other folks (allegedly) do it? Is that the standard?[/quote] What has been misrepresented? He has a degree from Harvard. You may just not be very impressed with it.[/quote] He has a graduate degree from the Extension School. When someone receives a graduate degree from Harvard, it is from a specific school @ Harvard, not from generic Harvard University. [/quote] It's still part of the university, even if you wish it wasn't.[/quote] Right. It is Harvard Extension School. I read a lot of CVs. Folks don't list "Master's Degree, Harvard University," they list the degree, the school issuing it, then Harvard University. IYKYK. Or maybe that's the reason why some of these folks are at the extension school - they can't follow directions. [/quote] Ok, show us where Rufo's resume had this listed. [/quote] NP. Given the type of work he does, I don't know exactly what kind of "resume" he has (I'm just a regular guy with a normal job, I've never been a "Senior Fellow"), but he definitely lists it simply as "Harvard University" on his bios for the various groups he works with and where he's published: https://manhattan.institute/person/christopher-f-rufo https://christopherrufo.com/about https://www.city-journal.org/person/christopher-f-rufo https://www.ncf.edu/about/leadership/board-of-trustees/[/quote] So not resumes just informal bios. And people really care about this? [/quote] He's a public figure. "Informal" bios are how he's introduced to the public not resumes. Personally, I think people should represent themselves honestly, so yeah I do care. [/quote] Especially when the person has put in a lot of effort to pointing out others' honesty or lack thereof.[/quote] Again, where is the lie?[/quote] Because you do not receive a master's/graduate degree from **Harvard** University. You receive it from a school at Harvard, so it's X degree, the school, Harvard. Rufo never identifies the school. He's not being honest. Interesting on how you are drilling down on that it needs to be a lie. Is that how you want to split hairs over integrity?[/quote]
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