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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The average SAT score is 1028. The average ACT score is 19. Test scores are extremely predictive of college success. That's why there are a ton of scholarships available for high scores. You want a free ride to Alabama? 32-36 will do it. But test optional is not going away. Colleges love the extra applications. But don't think for a minute that your kid in Bethesda or Arlington can get away with not submitting test scores, unless they have some kind of hook. For the elite schools, your white kid from the burbs is not getting in without a 1500+ or 34. Plus the 4.0. And what makes things annoying is that TO has bumped up average test scores to the stratosphere. It's tough out there. [/quote] Not true. White kid. 33. In at Cornell last year.[/quote] Agriculture? Architecture? Business? Hospitality?[/quote] Business [/quote] Geographic diversity? Rural/small town/under represented state?[/quote] Please give me some way to dismiss your kid as somehow less deserving of this. Please?[/quote] Yup. Actually thought they were going to 'play' the legacy or athlete cards first.[/quote] Well, the deans of admission basically said they look at test scores in context of your school/resources. And if yours is below the median test score for this school but is actually way higher than the average for your under resourced/rural/small town/North Dakota HS, that test score is as or more impressive than a 1550 / 34+ from an UMC suburban kid. So the kid that got into Cornell with a 33 may not be from an average or overrepresented geographic area, UMC etc. may have some hook / institutional priority but then again 33 is very close to their middle 50% so who knows. 33 ACT is a very good score and definitely doesn’t put you out of consideration for ivies. I know of a [b]girl who got into Stanford through questbridge with a 29 ACT[/b]. [/quote] And then she required special summer program to start, and special handholding throughout to survive. What a sad joke.[/quote] So what, if she survived. I am her. I grew up poor and white. I had a good GPA for my under resourced school. MY SAT was awful. I got into a school that required me to start in the summer and take remedial classes. I had to use tutors and academic resource center to graduate. It took me 5 years and not 4. I graduated magna cum laude with a B.S. in EE and a minor in math. I was a successful engineer who worked with people who went to MIT. I then left engineering and went to law school. I got into a prestigious T10 law school. I am now a partner at a law firm and well respected by my peers and clients. I practice patent law and counsel the best and brightest with top engineering degrees. Who cares how I got there. I got there. I make more money than I could have dreamed doing what I love.[/quote]
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