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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]just listen very carefully to AOs when asked this question - and they're all asked it.

we've heard quite a lot of top 20 presenters say, "my advice is to look up our numbers from last year, and submit if you're at 50% or higher"

they want their averages to go up - it works for their rankings.[/quote]

Pretty much

Outside of the top 40 colleges, no one gives a damn about test scores.

But for those top 40 schools, it matters a lot. And they want those 1580s and 35s. It sucks for smart kids. There's so much pressure right now.

TO is a disaster for smart and ambitious students. But it's a big win for top 40 colleges. They get to admit their garbage students AND they keep their numbers up. I[b]t's hard to look at schools like UCLA and Berkeley with any kind of respect at the undergrad level. A lottery for mediocrity.[/b]

Respect to MIT, Georgia Tech, Georgetown and the other schools still demanding test scores.

SAT and ACT scores have been well-proven as indicators of intelligence and likelihood of success in college. The situation is regrettable.  [/quote]

Hardly. I’m in CA. My kids attend a “highly rated” suburban public school. Each year, only about 10 kids go to UCLA and 10 to Berkeley. These are top top kids. Absolutely exceptional.

If you think UCLA and Berkeley are filled with mediocre kids, I would suggest you have an anti-UC bias and it’s clouding your judgement.

UCLA and Berkeley remain the gold standard dream for California students .

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How about the 5000 transfers each year from the community colleges?  https://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/campuses-majors/ucla/transfer-admission-profile.html. [/quote]

That is transfer to any of the UC colleges. There are 9 of them. Some have higher admit rates (Merced, Riverside), some of them have competitive admit rates (Santa Barbara, Irvine, Davis) and some of them are highly competitive (UCLA, Berkeley).

Those 5000 transfers are not all going to UCLA or Berkeley, sorry to break it to ya.[/quote]

Actually, sorry to break it to you, but you’re the one who is uninformed in this particular discussion.[/quote]

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