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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Transparen?  Hardly.  Have you even seen a VT Naviance chart lately?[/quote]

There is more to admissions than stats. This has been addressed. [/quote]

I'm really curious how they are able to put so much weight on supplemental essays--how they can even read them with that much care at that volume and make meaningful distinctions about how kids respond.   And why?  Are a few 150 word responses really that telling about how well you will succeed/make use of a technical education?  It just really doesn't make sense to me.  [/quote]

They don't.  This is just what people say to support the narrative of no yield protection and to justify VT rejecting high stats kids and accepting kids with [b]3.5 GPAs and 1250 SATs.[/b]  As if a kid with a 4.5 and a 1590 SAT couildn't write a coherent 150 word essay.  [/quote]

You're dreaming if you think most kids accepted to VT have the bolded stats.  You simply can't get over the fact that your kid was not accepted.  Move on.[/quote]

A 3.4 uw and 4.0 w gpa is pretty average at most high schools in Nova[/quote]
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VT's average is 4.4W  :D [/quote]

No.  VT’s WGPA average is 3.97. GMUs is 3.8z  UVA/WM WGPA is around 4.4.[/quote]

Link to this information? 
DP[/quote]

I'm a different poster, but here's a link/info:
For 2022-2023==enrolled freshman, from SCHEV database: https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

GMU   Median GPA: 3.76       %submitting test scores: 38.5%      1160-1340
JMU    Median GPA:  3.88       %submitting test scores: 26.2%      1160-1310
VT      Median GPA:  4.04       %submitting test scores:  56.6%      1230-1400
WM     Median GPA :4.33       %submitting test scores:   70.6%      1375-1520
UVA    Median GPA: 4.4          %submitting test scores:  70.9%      1400-1520

UVA& W&M are most similar, with high percentages of submitted test scores, nearly identical SAT spreads except W&M.

VT seems in the middle, with lower GPA and scores, and lower number of people submitting test scores than UVA/W&M, but higher than GMU/JMU.

Surprising to me that GMU seems almost identical to JMU in terms of stats of enrolled students--slightly higher SATs and higher percent of kids submitting scores.  Slightly lower median GPA.  In the past I thought of JMU as enrolling stronger students that GMU.  It may be that students who start at GMU as freshman are very strong but then GMU has a higher transfer population from NOVA due to its proximity.
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The percentage submitting is really the interesting number.  Overall, those with lower percentages submitting are less selective than a school with a higher percentage submitting all other things being equal.  The SAT range for JMU, for instance, is only reflective of slightly more than a quarter of the enrolled class. [b] It is less than half of VT's submitting percentage and only about 37% of the percentage submitting for UVA and W&M.  [/b][/quote]

I don't understand what you are saying here.[/quote]

DP:  When comparing SAT scores for schools during test optional it's important to look at the percent submitting scores because people with high scores tend to submit while those with lower scores do not.  JMU has the lowest percent submitting of the examples listed here. So their SAT range really is the range of a little over 1/4 of the admitted students who opted to submit scores. Their 26.2% submitting is less than half the percentage of VTs (where about 56% submit) and 37% of UVA/WM (where about 70% submit).[/quote]

Thanks. It wasn't clear to me that you were using JMU as the base school to compare the other three schools to.[/quote]

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