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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Transparen?  Hardly.  Have you even seen a VT Naviance chart lately?[/quote]

There is more to admissions than stats. This has been addressed. [/quote]

I'm really curious how they are able to put so much weight on supplemental essays--how they can even read them with that much care at that volume and make meaningful distinctions about how kids respond.   And why?  Are a few 150 word responses really that telling about how well you will succeed/make use of a technical education?  It just really doesn't make sense to me.  [/quote]

They don't.  This is just what people say to support the narrative of no yield protection and to justify VT rejecting high stats kids and accepting kids with [b]3.5 GPAs and 1250 SATs.[/b]  As if a kid with a 4.5 and a 1590 SAT couildn't write a coherent 150 word essay.  [/quote]

You're dreaming if you think most kids accepted to VT have the bolded stats.  You simply can't get over the fact that your kid was not accepted.  Move on.[/quote]

A 3.4 uw and 4.0 w gpa is pretty average at most high schools in Nova[/quote]
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VT's average is 4.4W  :D [/quote]

No.  VT’s WGPA average is 3.97. GMUs is 3.8z  UVA/WM WGPA is around 4.4.[/quote]

Link to this information? 
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I'm a different poster, but here's a link/info:
For 2022-2023==enrolled freshman, from SCHEV database: https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

GMU   Median GPA: 3.76       %submitting test scores: 38.5%      1160-1340
JMU    Median GPA:  3.88       %submitting test scores: 26.2%      1160-1310
VT      Median GPA:  4.04       %submitting test scores:  56.6%      1230-1400
WM     Median GPA :4.33       %submitting test scores:   70.6%      1375-1520
UVA    Median GPA: 4.4          %submitting test scores:  70.9%      1400-1520

UVA& W&M are most similar, with high percentages of submitted test scores, nearly identical SAT spreads except W&M.

VT seems in the middle, with lower GPA and scores, and lower number of people submitting test scores than UVA/W&M, but higher than GMU/JMU.

Surprising to me that GMU seems almost identical to JMU in terms of stats of enrolled students--slightly higher SATs and higher percent of kids submitting scores.  Slightly lower median GPA.  In the past I thought of JMU as enrolling stronger students that GMU.  It may be that students who start at GMU as freshman are very strong but then GMU has a higher transfer population from NOVA due to its proximity.
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The percentage submitting is really the interesting number.  Overall, those with lower percentages submitting are less selective than a school with a higher percentage submitting all other things being equal.  The SAT range for JMU, for instance, is only reflective of slightly more than a quarter of the enrolled class.  It is less than half of VT's submitting percentage and only about 37% of the percentage submitting for UVA and W&M.  [/quote]

I think the numbers are showing a downward trend in students' academic quality for JMU--it's really surprising to me that it has slightly lower SATs than GMU even though a fewer percent of students submitted scores to JMU.  I think the rise of VT and GMU has come at a cost to JMU--maybe because they are perceived to have more STEM/career focus? This is a precarious time for colleges because after all these years of competing for students, they are going to be hitting the demographic cliff that started in lower birth rates in 2008/2009 recession and never quite let up.  I wonder if JMU's strategy is to become popular with a broader range of students rather than to continuously admit more academically strong students?  I know GMUs strategy has been to grow to meet demand rather than to become increasingly selective.[/quote]

Not making excuses, but I believe the college class of 2026 was the first time JMU accepted the Common App.  Applications have increased tremendously. Probably take them a couple of cycles to figure out where they "want to be".[/quote]

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