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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Where do I get my protein?

So annoying! Educate yourself before asking something so ridiculous. 
I am not protein deficient now nor have I ever been in the 7 years that I have been eating WFPB.  In fact, I can actually strength train and grow my muscles substantially(mind-blown).[/quote]
If you called yourself a vegetarian instead of “WFPB” people may understand better.[/quote]

PP.  But I'm NOT vegetarian.  I don't eat dairy or eggs.  Whole Food Plant Based is the only way to describe how I eat.[/quote]

Is that vegan? I think saying "mostly vegan" would probably be less confusing. I am a lifelong vegetarian who works in animal welfare and I never ever hear anyone describe their diet as WFPB and would actually have zero idea of what it means if you said it to me. So yeah I'd ask![/quote]

I've been vegan for 20 years - I have never heard that term before either. Does it make you more special because you HAVE to explain your diet to literally everyone??[/quote]

I always assume whole food meant no processed food. You can certainly be vegan and eat processed meat analogs, so assume WFPB posters does not. [/quote]

I wish WFPB poster would come back and explain.

People understand "vegan." Adding "I only eat whole foods" might come in handy if you're asked why you are declining to eat a Boca Burger. But what exactly is the point of telling people "my diet is whole foods plant based" if nobody knows what that means? And why would she deny being vegan if she only eats plant based foods. It's like she's just trying hard to be confusing. 
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People often don't understand vegan, but that's beside the point. I don't understand what's so confusing about WFPB diets. I love meat. Even though I'm not a vegetarian, I can grasp the concept of both whole foods (minimally processed, few ingredients, natural) and plant based (sourced from plants rather than animals). Most vegans and vegetarians I know aren't eating processed meat substitutes. They are avoiding meat, not looking to find some frankensteined meat substitute. Most of the vegans I know eat WFPB diets, but it's the PB part that makes them vegan. The WF part is an add on. Also, most vegans I know are pretty devoted to avoiding animal products, including leather products and honey, and it extends beyond food into cosmetics and all facets of life where it's possible to control if animals were involved. Anyway, I don't know if WFPB diet folks who describe themselves that way rather than vegan are devoted to avoiding all animal products or if it's only diet. I guess that would be a personal decision.[/quote]

Can you say "I'm mostly vegan and avoid processed foods" then, instead of WFPB? Or "I am mostly vegan, and avoid processed foods - we call that WFPB"?

I work in comms and am always telling people that you have to avoid jargon and acronyms if you want people to actually know what you're talking about. A diet like this isn't self-explanatory or common enough not to need some explanation - and if maybe one day it will be, today it's not. If you don't want to explain - the premise of this thread - it seems like there are easier ways to let people know why you're eating what you're eating, or not eating what you're not eating, than using a confusing acronym.

The diet does sound healthy! It's just not common enough (yet) to be able to say it without some explanation. Like keto was 20-something years ago. I remember when my first friend did keto and we had this long conversation about it at a party because it was new - now you hear someone's keto and you don't need any explanation. Maybe WFPB will be like that at some point but it's not now.[/quote]

How do people not know what whole food means? Or plant based? If someone is too dumb to think about what those two pairs of words mean, I doubt they’d understand vegan. [/quote]

Then just say "I don't eat meat or processed foods" if you truly believe that vegan is just as confusing to regular people as WFPB. I think you're wrong, but give it a try. Or don't! I don't care. You just can't be surprised when people ask you for an explanation.

Part of the issue is that no one knows if saying you're "plant based" means that you never eat meat or you mostly don't eat meat - or what it means re: dairy or eggs. I also really truly don't know what people mean when they say they eat whole foods, just like I genuinely don't know what people mean when they say they eat "clean" food other than that they're probably trying to lose weight.[/quote]

I eat meat. I’m not trying to say this about myself. I’m confused as to how people find this to be difficult. Plant based means it comes from plants. Do eggs and dairy come from plants? If yes, then they’re good. If no, it’s not WFPB. Whole Foods is what it implies-as close to the natural state of the food as possible with minimal processing (like eating an apple rather than cooking it and mashing it into applesauce). It’s also a form of clean eating. It’s not generally about losing weight. It’s about being healthy.

I guess I also find it confusing how you’re having a conversation where someone is explaining the concepts, and you’re still saying you don’t know what it means. [/quote]

but also - meat doesn't come from plants, right? but you eat it? but not eggs?
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My goodness, you’re determined not to learn aren’t you? I eat meat, therefore I don’t follow a WFPB diet. Like I said, I don’t say WFPB in reference to my diet, but I’m still quite capable of understanding the concept. I don’t understand why you’re acting like it’s difficult. You presumably graduated from high school and probably college, learned to drive, maybe even had children. If you do those things, I have faith you can understand the concept of Whole Food Plant Based diet and other healthy diet options, even if you don’t eat that way. [/quote]

First you are talking to multiple people.  And the reason that it's confusing is that different people use the terms "whole foods" and "plant based" differently.  So, yes, the words have a certain meaning, but the fact that it is hard to find two people who have the same unusual diet that actually eat the same way, it isn't particularly enlightening to use some new fangled term that is no more enlightening that the multiple other terms already in use.  So, just use the term vegetarian.  It will give people about as much clue as to what you do and don't eat as WFPB does using a term that people are familiar with.[/quote]

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