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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Clueless Russian, after having invaded, oppressed, suppressed and repeatedly genocided Chechens for the last 250 years:

"Gee, I just don't get why these Chechens are so angry.  They're just bad people, that's all."[/quote]

They are bad to each other, too.

For instance, it wasn't Russians who made Chechens give custody exclusively to fathers in case of divorce, and bar access to mothers.  It wasn't Russians who taught Chechens the blood vendetta.  It wasn't Russians who taught Chechens that women who marry out must be excommunicated or killed.  It wasn't Russians who taught Chechens that a dead son is preferred to a gay son.  That's self taught. [/quote]

Even if it were all true, Russians could have just left them alone.

And Russians can be homophobic too, and plenty of Russian men beat their wives, are alcoholics, gangsters and thugs. At least Chechens don’t drink. The difference is one group wants to impose their way of life and political influence over others. The other just wanted to be left alone.[/quote]

What do you mean? It IS all true.

The world saw what happened in Chechnya when it was kinda sorta left alone.  It was not pretty.  There is no viable path to independence for them, and no one wants a salafi funded failed state next door. So, no.   I find it curious that you think any part of Russia that wants to be "left alone" needs to immediately be set free, but god forbid a part of Azerbaijan wants to be independent, or a part of Ukraine, too.  Then you all are like, "territorial integrity!"   That's apparently only for some countries and not for others.  Good to know! Just like civil rights.[/quote]

You are really trying to tell me that the “separatist” republics in Eastern Ukraine are actual freedom fighters that want self governance and Russia is just backing the little guy? Haha. Why is Russia trying to annex them?

Like you really think we believe that in 2008 Russia suddenly cared for the liberation of the Abkhaz people? And South Ossetia, a “country”with the same population as Silver Spring, Maryland? Give me a BREAK. Why do they all have Russian passports now?
What other conclusion can we draw other than Russia wanting to rebuild an empire?

But the damn Chechens in the early 90s just got too uppity.

I’m as critical of US foreign policy (and domestic policy, for that matter) as the next person. I myself lean left. One thing holds true though. People for various reasons WANT to come to America and become Americans. Whereas people become Russians (россияне) by force and violence. [/quote]

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