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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So many of you PPs are insane. Obesity is a problem. I have three cousins who died young due to obesity related diseases. I was overweight as a child and I HATED it. Every minute of it. I wish my parents would’ve helped me with exercise and eating habits, but they were obese, too.

OP, you are right to worry. Obesity is terrible and yet [b]totally preventable[/b]. I wish you luck [/quote]

If it's so preventable why are 40% of Americans obese?[/quote]

Poor choices. Obesity is not rocket science. We sit around all day and eat bad food with high calories and low nutrition [/quote]

No one treating an obese population thinks this. Your comment is a prime example of Dunning-Kruger. [/quote]

this is just not true. Not true at all. 
Obesity is not some mysterious disease. It's a pretty clear cause and effect. are some people more prone? Yes. But we know what the base issues are and how to get out of it. 
People like you making excuses for obesity and trying to frame it as some random disease like lupus are fooling yourselves. And, frankly, you're a danger to society. You're why we have so many obese people. It is not ok to be obese. [/quote]

Again, no one in the field says this. Only ignorant people outside of it. [/quote]

Let me guess. You're in the field and read that in Vogue somewhere, right?
Almost everyone that I know in medicine says otherwise, and they live with me. So nice try.[/quote]

Do they always opine outside their specialties? [/quote]

HA! Because the anonymous rantings of a DCUM lunatic is so much more reliable. Get off WebMD and feed your kids something healthy. And while you're at it, go for a walk.[/quote]

Since we are on an anonymous forum I’ll tell you what I really think about all those “people in medicine” living in your house. In my 20 year career in healthcare, I’ve discovered most practitioners are quite dumb. Incompetent at critical thinking. Really only skilled at memorizing, which was once incredibly helpful and is now mostly replaced by technology. There are very few true experts moving the ball forward in any area of practice but many self-aggrandizing frontline practitioners who couldn’t tell a well-designed study from a WebMD article. They are completely unable to grasp basic details of the validity of research like population size, confounding factors, P-hacking, etc. My only solace as a patient is that I can circumvent them when I need to with my privilege and ability to pay out of pocket. But I feel terrible for everyone else out there, seeing these hacks and getting truly horrible care and advice.

Hopefully OP can find someone actually competent. But it will be hard. [/quote]

Let me guess, you're in medical sales. Or worse, admin. Not an actual physician or researcher yourself but damn do you know a lot about it. 
Like I said, go for a walk. [/quote]

Pharma executive actually. Thank God we in pharma actually cure disease and save lives because your PA husband and CNA daughter sure aren’t. [/quote]
OMG. With that comment you lost all credibility!
You think you are a savior pumping people full of weight loss drugs? [/quote]

I mean, it’s better than a solution that doesn’t work. [/quote]
Go away pharma exec! 
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I'm not a pharma exec and I won't go away. But I can see and acknowledge the reality that nothing has worked so far for obesity on a population level and the injectables look incredibly promising so far.[/quote]
It’s such an inappropriate suggestion since OPs child hasn’t tried anything else. [/quote]

I don’t disagree. Nobody suggested pharmaceutical options in this particular comment thread, so I wasn’t responding to that. I was just defending the pharma executive because she is right, they are the ones with the most promising solution at this point in time in this particular arena. [/quote]
14:14 suggested it. 
Diet and exercise are proven to work, as is lap band. Stop kidding yourself that pharma has a quick fix. [/quote]

That’s why I said “this particular comment thread.” Is reading very hard for you?

And LOL that’s hilarious, no one does lap band anymore. Vertical sleeve gastrectomy and roux en y bypass are pretty successful, but why on earth would you remove 80% your stomach or rearrange your intenstines when you could treat your obesity with medication?[/quote]
Goodness.  Give it up. These medications haven’t even been proven safe or effective, or have a long track record and you’re going about how it’s so much better than surgery?  No, thanks. [/quote]

Uh yes, a medication that has been proven safe is 100% better than invasive surgery that permanently changes your digestive anatomy and has a high complication rate. Obviously. [/quote]

This is how I know they just hate fat people. Surgically permanently alter your innards and never be able to eat normally again, risk huge complications and severe nutritional deficiencies? All good. Painlessly inject medication that has been proven safe once a week? Absolutely not. You’ll regret it!

[b]They do not want us to have a relatively easy time losing weight because it’s not a good enough punishment for our perceived gluttony and sloth. We’re only allowed to lose weight if it is painstaking or leaves us literally scarred with disfigured organs. When I first thought this I thought I was crazy but I’ve been convinced[/b]. [/quote]

+1[/quote]

Omg.  Stop with the perceived jealousy thin people have toward obese people on meds.  Delusional [/quote]

Sorry babes you're not going to gaslight me anymore. I just read one of y'all say that invasive surgery is a-ok but weekly medication is not. That tells me all I need to know.[/quote]
Take meds if you need them. I would hesitate because I don’t believe there is a long enough history. How many meds have been declared “safe” only to be recalled? Calling these meds completely safe is delusional. Surgery or medication both have risks associated with them. [/quote]

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