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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Good discussion going on the local sub reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MontgomeryCountyMD/comments/102jg8a/parents_of_mcps_students_do_you_guys_have_a/

MCPS sound like an absolute disaster.  Zero accountability. Zero standards. Rapid decline of quality.  How long until people with money stop moving to this county to flee all of the progressivism ruining the schools and county?  The only reason property values maintained value in MoCo was always because of the schools.  The discussion going on now with messages from insiders is truly shocking.  MoCo looks like it is in rapid decline and once the schools go, what reason will there be to stay?[/quote]

So completely and thoroughly f'ed up. MCPS's been in rapid decline for many years. But if you say anything, then you are a racist. God help us.  [/quote]

LOL, I love these crocodile tears. There is ABSOLUTELY NO DECLINE. What has changed are the demographics of the county. You may have noticed. This means some things are different, but you can get a better education today than in the past.[/quote]

It's not demographics.  Its the curriculum, teaching style and no homework... all things we had prior to the decline

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I think it is both. Changing demographics, increased identification of special needs, and unfunded federal mandates that trickled down to individual school budgets created a trifecta of pain for MCPS that has led to decreased enrichment opportunities (tighter sports budgets, fewer field trips, fewer learning materials--like for science labs just to note a few).[/quote]

Exactly, at our school[b] if you aren't special needs or ESOL good luck getting any attention[/b].[/quote]

Pretty sure you don't have a special ed child.  Special Ed is a disaster, even discrete classrooms are overcrowded and don't have qualified teachers (long term subs in place since the start of the school year count as a warm body, and count towards the superintendent saying "we are 99% staffed," but not as qualified).  I promise you, as the exhausted parent of 2 special ed children, they are not getting any attention.  [/quote]

My kid got zero attention or support despite an iep.  It wasn’t with the paper it was written on.  The excuse was they had kids with more needs.  We paid a fortune privately for therapies.  [/quote]

MCPS would rather fight families before doing what it takes to implement the IEPs.  Discrimination against students with disabilities is very real in MCPS and Dr. McKnight nor Diana Wyles have a plan to fill the vacancies or to improve Special Education in MCPS. [/quote]

#fakenews[/quote]

No, its not.  There is a severe shortage of special ed teachers nationwide, not just in Montgomery County.  Many special ed teacher positions this year are filled with long term subs and they are not qualified nor able to teach their students appropriately.  [/quote]

With the proliferation of this private diagnosis especially in the UMC schools that provide unlimited time on tests like SATs, there just isn't money to accommodate everyone these days and with the changes in demographics from mass immigration MCPS seems different today than 30 years ago.. However, anyone, who wants a great education [b]it's as good as ever[/b]. Test averages may be a little different but the same opportunities exist.[/quote]
Yep. I do feel for the parents whose kids have real problems that need to be addressed through IEPs but what you have to realize are so many of these UMC parents are getting private diagnoses and IEPs. The IEPs are for something minor like "my child has to sit in this particular seat during their high school classes or they won't be successful". Multiply that by x number of students with  a similar IEP in a class then how many classes today - it's no wonder the teachers can't keep all the IEPs straight. Then those parents will complain the teacher isn't following the IEP.[/quote]

Some of us are trying to tell all of you, that no, it is not "as good as ever."  There are structural changes being made in education that affect all kids: removing homework, deadlines and in some places, grades, choice of lesson plans, no disciplinary consequences, stress on teachers, placement of illiterate or barely literate kids in AP classes due to equity concerns or overcrowding, etc.  You can fool yourself all day, but it doesn't change the reality of what is going on.[/quote]

Actually it seems much better for my kids than when I was at a W 30+ years ago. However, it sounds like your kids aren't signing up for hard classes. Mine have homework, deadlines etc...Even in the past remedial math was lighter than Calc BC. You need to try and look a little deeper.[/quote]

Same experience here for me. Went to Rockville HS 25 years ago and the level of homework and school projects are comparatively much more difficult these days than when I was in HS.  We also didn't have the same level of career/college programs that we have now.  I know there are challenges today that didn't exist back then but remember that what you see in the schools is a reflection of what's happening today in society. It is what it is. At the end of the day, the kids who will do fine are the ones who take advantage of the opportunities, prioritize school, and are guided by their parents. If your kids are on this boat, you don't have to worry. [/quote]

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