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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]^^ why am I bothering? You don’t seem to read anything, you just keep typing the same debunked arguments. You’ll just come back with more of the same claims, without acknowledging these claims are based on debunked and frankly ridiculous arguments.[/quote] Pp (what to call her? The former Jew?) has a clear strategy. When one of her points, like the claim about Peter’s dream, is torn apart, she doesn’t respond and just moves on to another claim. But she waits a day or two, and multiple pages, to come back with the exact same claim about Peter. I guess she’s hoping old readers have moved on and nobody here today will remember what a crock that was shown to be? Doesn’t seem particularly honest. [/quote] There you go again calling me “a former Jew.” How many times have I got to tell you that to be a Jew one must be born of a Jewish mother. For the umpteenth time my mother is Christian. Moreover, you still haven’t answered if Jesus made all meat kosher in Mark, then why does Peter refuse to eat un kosher meat in Acts? Jesus kept kosher. http://travelingrabbi.com/unique/was-jesus-kosher-what-did-kosher-jesus-eat-at-the-last-supper-jesus-kept-kosher-even-then/index.html[/quote] I’m not the former person but I will explain why Peter remains kosher. The purpose of the vision is to show Peter that God accepts all people (there is no chosen people): Jewish people, Gentiles, Christians, Muslims, Athirsts, everybody Jesus will except you no matter who you are and what your beliefs are. Peter will always be Jewish he will always want to keep kosher because that was his culture that is OK and he will be excepted as a Jew for Jesus basically. [/quote] That’s what I’ve been saying all along. I’ve already said that in this thread. In the early Christian church, according to Paul, Jewish Law, such as kashrut and circumcision, apply only to Jewish Christians, not to Gentile Christians. Peter and James believed Jewish Law applied to all Christians which is why they had their huge confrontation in Galatians. [/quote] I’ve addressed your post about Peter twice, most recently on the page right before this one. This only confirms the suspicion that you don’t even bother to read responses. Here’s my previous response, again. Scholars look at the argument between Peter and Paul as being about either (1) eating meat at all, or (2) people not food, specifically Jewish Christian Ebonites and their belief that you shouldn’t eat at a table with unbaptized people, which is the context of this dream. Interestingly, Paul talks about vegetarianism and tells people not to quarrel over food laws in Romans 14-21. Kosher laws don’t necessarily come into it (although I’m to the interpretation about accepting Peter with his adherence to Jewish law). But, none of this supports your point that Jesus kept kosher or required his Jewish followers to keep kosher. It only says that Peter kept kosher. [/quote] To the contrary, 6:40 was absolutely right. Peter, head of the church, was always going to keep kosher. You have no answer for why Peter said he had never eaten un kosher meat and wasn’t about to start now. As 6:40 said, Peter’s dream meant all people could be Christians, not just Jews.[/quote] So you and 6:40 disagree with scholarly interpretations of Peter’s dreams (after I had to post them three times). Well I’m convinced: two randos on DCUM say something, so it must be true. You’re missing the point. 1. I never said Peter wasn’t going to keep kosher. Although scholars think the dream was more about vegetarianism or sitting down with unbaptised people, none of that is inconsistent with Peter keeping kosher. 2. Whether or not Peter kept kosher, this proves nothing, nada, zilch, zero about whether Jesus *required* his Jewish convert followers (Peter and anybody else) to keep kosher. As we’ve discussed for pages now, your interpretations of Mark and Matthew (you say they show that Jesus wanted his followers to keep kosher) are an extreme fringe minority and are based on some pretty weak logic about Mark and Matthew speaking only to Jews (when there’s solid evidence Mark was talking to Christian converts in Rome). [/quote]
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