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[quote=Anonymous] PP, you make as many assumptions as the others. How do you know that this person paid for the schools or programs she was in? There are a lot of scholarships available for the people who are willing to study. These jobs are not cushy, there are many jobs where couples can balance the home/kids stuff well between each other. The discussion here is about having the mindset where men and women respect each other and support each other, where each party sees the other one as an equal contributor. What's wrong with that? The working moms here are saying that it is doable, it is good for your future benefits, don't give up and [b]just push your partner to be an equal home/kids partner.[/b] Otherwise, this society will only be run by men, decisions taken by men and women can continue receiving the second class citizen treatments...[/quote] Because working moms need one more thing to do. The problem is men (at least a lot of them). They are the ones failing here. I don't know how to change that, but I 100% disagree that women are responsible for the failure of many men. I really resent people who tell me that my DH's failure to look around a room and clean it up without being told what to pick up is somehow my responsibility. (obviously if my 5 year old can't do this that is another story. parents do have a responsibility to teach their children. my DH is NOT my child. His brain is fully developed and he is perfectly capable in professional situations of cleaning up his shit. His office at work is very neat. His office at home is a mess.). Platitudes like "don't give up" and "just push your partner" are absolutely of not practical help and blame women. My point is to examine how we talk about this and use language that does NOT blame women. PP isn't the only one in the thread to do this. Also, it isn't rocket science for any grown adult to figure out whether they are slacking. If you live in a clean house, and you don't clean it. If you eat food, that you didn't prepare. If you have children, and you're not the one taking care of them, you'd damn well better have had a really clear conversation with someone else that they are doing these things. Otherwise you're taking advantage of someone else. Are we really pretending men as a group have always been cleaned up after and fed by someone else their entire lives? Even if someone had a parent who waited on them hand and foot, if anyone lived outside their childhood home for any period of time before marrying, they were taking care of themselves in one way or another. [/quote]
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