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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Protestant, and both occured in the Catholic church. DC went to a Catholic school for middle and I recommend anyone to this school...I love everything about it. When he would be awarded something (virtue of the month) it was a big deal for him, and it was given during Mass. I respect the Catholic Church and it's routines, but it still rankled that I was denied Communion. I believe everything invovled and my feelings are strong, so to be "not good enough" was hard. The 2nd was at a family member's funeral, and a few of us were asked to read scripture from the pupit. I grew up a preacher's kid...I've read the Bible through and have read publicly 100's of times. But we were told 15 minutes before that we needed training, and the official asked if we were Catholic, we said no, Protestant, and he said "It's ok, I've taught atheists to do this". It took everything in my power to not walk out...I stayed for family. I did not bow to the priest. [/quote] If you believe everything involved, why not just be Catholic? Non-Catholics shouldn’t be reading at Mass, even at a funeral.[/quote] Well then they shouldn't have invited us to read knowing we weren't Catholic, or talk down to us as Protestants as if we were "atheists" Those people are the only ones in the wrong here. As for the other misunderstanding, I believe in everything associated with communion and the meaning of communion regardless of the denomination I am in. [/quote] You are one hundred percent correct that the person should not have invited you to read. That is on them. [b]They should not have insulted you either, although I suspect they were at most guilty of an unfunny “joke.”[/b] You say you “believe in everything associated with communion and the meaning of communion.” Does that mean you believe in transubstantiation; that through grace and the actions of the priest at Mass the bread and wine become in actual substance the body and blood, soul and divinity, of Jesus, with the external appearance of bread and wine remaining behind only as external “accidents?” That only a priest validly ordained in the apostolic succession can confect this miracle? That the Eucharist, that is the consecrated body and blood of Jesus under the appearance of bread and wine are the fruits of an in blood re-presentation of Jesus’s sacrifice on the cross st Calvary? That the Eucharist is the “real presence” of God, not co-presence of God in and material things, not the real presence for some people but only bread and wine for others, not a mere symbol, not a mere “memorial” of the Lord’s supper? Because if you do not believe each and all of those things you in fact do not believe what Catholics do about the Eucharist. Catholics have “closed” communion because for them, the Eucharist is the ultimate sign of unity, and hence cannot be shared with persons in a different faith community who do not share Catholic beliefs. Those who share such beliefs but are not within the Roman Church can receive the Eucharist under specific circumstances outlined in the Church’s canon law.[/quote] I agree with you...it was an insult and not funny, not even a joke, although I think HE thought it was funny. It was rude. You're absolutely correct on the rest also: I am NOT Catholic. I obviously worded my feelings incorrectly and will leave it at that as I don't want to get into the argument and considered an atheist again. [/quote] [b]being considered an atheist is not the worst thing in the world.[/b] Signed, an atheist.[/quote] PP here, and I meant no offense to you atheist poster! I took it as offense when a priest calling another christian an atheist as a "joke" to demean as not good enough for them on the christianity spectrum. My apologies! [/quote] Thank you. At some level, most of us are learning that we have been reflexively and unwittingly insulting people because they are somehow different from whatever is considered to be the mainstream. I recall being with a member of a demeaned ethnic group, when I made a joke about my own ethnic group, assuming she knew my ethnicity and that it was a joke. Her response? "Oh THOSE people!" -- as if it's ok to demean people of different ethnicities if you think they are not present.[/quote]
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