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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think the really 'top of top' colleges are Harvard, Stanford and MIT.

Then some gap, then Princeton, Yale, Caltech.

Then some more gap

then Columbia, Chicago, etc.[/quote]

Move Caltech a notch below. Not really above Columbia or Chicago. It’s not a comprehensive university and in the public eye, generally not as well known.[/quote]

CalTech is a niche school, don’t belong with ivy schools. It’s like Olympics athletes who are born with skills that the average people can’t compete with.  I actually give them less credit than DCUM. It’s like mike Tyson and his destructive punches. I don’t doubt he worked hard, but the gift from God made it that much easier. Likewise, science and math geeks will have an easier time getting into CalTech. USNews for it right to place it below most ivies next to WashU, Vandy, Emory, NU...[/quote]

You have no idea what you're saying and are wrong on various counts here.[/quote]

For CalTech to say it should be ranked higher on par with ivies is like saying Mike Tyson should have sweeped Nobel prizes bc he was #1 in boxing. CalTech is for kids who are born with natural talent in math/sciences - but nothing else. [/quote]

1) It's Caltech.
2) This is an extremely limited and uninformed view of both Caltech and people who are gifted in STEM.
3) Science and math geeks will not have an "easier" time getting into Caltech.
4) Northwestern is not "below" the Ivies, and is perennially ranked above WashU, Vandy, and Emory. I don't believe in touting the rankings, but since that's the metric you're using...
5) Your analogy with Mike Tyson makes zero sense, as STEM fields constitute many of the categories for the Nobel Prizes.

You seem not to know too much about Caltech. Have you ever visited?[/quote]

Some of Math/science talent is innate, just as Mike tyson’s talent was. That’s not to say they don’t work hard. Edison said genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration. If you don’t have that 1% innate talent, you can’t make that up with 100% perspiration. It is in this sense being a GOAT for Tyson was easier than the nerds. But for the math/science nerds, CalTech is infinitely easier than the boxing GOAT Mike Tyson. These nerds who may be talented in math/science, however, may have trouble at ivies that evaluate students holistically. CalTech will always be below the GOATs of the intellectual world. [/quote]

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