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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Wow do people not know tons of big law lawyers who are really good at their jobs and also fat? It’s almost like being a dedicated conscientious person doesn’t have much to do with your body weight!

Anyway we need to just leave fat people alone. Telling them and others that they are unhealthy and are just making excuses to be unhealthy doesn’t do anything. How about we instead make healthy food accessible, make gym memberships and health breaks a part of the work force, get grocery stores in food deserts, spend more money on school lunches to make them healthy AND taste good, etc. Those things would actually make a difference , not looking at a fat person eating ice cream and saying “ick!”[/quote]

Healthy food is available.  Anyone can talk a walk.  It doesn't really matter.  People choose to eat junk because it tastes better (to many), as pointed out.  As long as high calorie junk food is being sold, enough people will continue to buy it/eat it over healthier foods time and time again.  [/quote]

To add:  No one should feel hatred toward another person because of how they look.  That is wrong.  I don't think overweight people are "ick" I feel bad for them because I know it is a struggle in many different ways.  But your thinking doesn't help the epidemic. It isn't the lack of gym memberships, the work day, or someone's income that causes obesity.  It is part food addiction, part bad habits around food, part poor choices in food.  The solution is entirely down to personal choices.  That doesn't make it easy; but it is what it is.  I don't think less than anyone because they aren't able to make the continuous choices needed to lose weight or stay at a healthy weight.  It is hard.  But my trying to place blame on the food industry, the workplace, schools...the solution isn't there. [/quote]

Do you disagree that putting the blame on tobacco companies solved the smoking crisis? That putting the onus on car companies for car safety was wrong? This is how it has been throughout history. When someone can make a buck, and in this case a lottttta bucks on a human weakness they will. You can blame the human weakness and nothing will happen, or you can blame the industry and less people die.

When I hear people talk like this I continue to be convinced that you care a lot more about fat people understanding their moral failings then actually doing anything to solve the crisis.[/quote]

Everyone has to eat.  You can't edit away obesity by way of the food industry.  One cigarette is harmful to you, one time in the car without seatbelt could be fetal.   Eating one McDs hamburger is not harmful.  Drinking one coke a week is fine and you won't be able to prove any scientific harm from that.  As long as people have easy access to good tasting foods that they don't have to go to through trouble and time to prepare and cook..you will have over eating and obesity in large numbers.  There is no solution that does not include a large amount of self control and good choices.[/quote]
Can we just start small? Not ban McD and ice-cream, but regulate sugar content in the products that shouldn't have it to begging with? Bread, deli meat, etc. Remove sugary drinks from school-provided breakfast and lunches.
I enjoy occasional burger and fries, but on the regular basis I go to the grocery store with magnifying glass to make sure the normal food I buy is not infused with sugar. And let me tell you - it's not easy. [/quote]

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