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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]STA sends about 20 percent of its class to Ivies, 20 percent to top ranked SLACS, and about 20 percent of its class to Chicago and Tulane. [/quote] The "Big 3" don't tell you how many of those students are recruited athletes, donor families, highly connected or under represented minorities. Take those numbers with a grain of salt. [/quote] I think the issue isn't URM, or recruited athletes or donor families, those can come from public too. [b]It is the issue of legacy. I think it is telling how many students get into MIT, if any, as MIT does not use legacy as an element of consideration within their admissions.[/b][/quote] Exactly this: Legacy The low MIT numbers show that. [/quote] No, it doesn’t. It’s about culture. STA follows a liberal arts curriculum and is most appealing for boys and parents who value that. This population is not interested in sending their boys to MIT. In addition, to be competitive at MIT or any of the schools that specialize in STEM, you need a different approach to STEM than is offered by STA. Our son is very strong in STEM and, as STA parents, we are conscious that he will need to make a choice soon. If he wants to focus on STEM, we’ll need to think about magnet schools. We are HYP alums who would prefer that our son take the liberal arts route, but friends who are on faculty at prestigious STEM schools have told us he will be at a disadvantage in STEM fields if he attends Harvard or Yale. Princeton has a respected school of engineering, so that might be a compromise, but if he wants to work in computer science, even Princeton will disadvantage him. [/quote] The best Ivy for STEM is Cornell, but Big 3 schools send grads to Stanford, Cal, Georgia Tech, Carnegie Mellon, Harvey Mudd and even to MIT, occasionally. True, they send more to Dartmouth, Yale, Harvard and def U of Chicago, but I think PP is a bit out of date. STEM is the future much more so than it was 15- 20 years ago, there are waaay to many Lawyers and these schools change with the times. Count the SE Asians in each class. That is a good indicator of what the academics are like and how things are trending [/quote] PP, I wasn't speaking for all Big 3s. I was speaking for STA, as the first poster suggested that STA kids only get into Ivies and SLACs because of their legacy status and presented the lack of STA admits to MIT as evidence. Well, you can't get in if you don't apply. STA does send kids to STEM schools, but they are a minority. Your reference to SE Asians is stereotyping of the worst sort. Most of the SE Asians grads from STA go on to Ivies and SLACs. I'd say you're the one who is out of date. STEM is so not the future compared to 15-20 years ago. Most of the STEM functions currently done by humans will be outsourced to AI in another 15-20 years. [b] People who can think creatively and solve problems will be the ones employed.[/b] Many STEM types will be retraining. [/quote] As in Engineers....[/quote]
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