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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I live next door to a new build that was under some form of construction for about 3-4 years. If poking your head into a residential building site was a crime punishable by street execution, half my neighborhood would be dead today. [/quote] True, but that's not what happened. Poke into a residential building, AND try to grab the gun of a dude you find there, THEN you might indeed go dead. I doubt very much that half of your neighborhood is as dumb, unless you are in prison.[/quote] No, what actually happened is this guy poked around a construction site which he had done before. That is why the 911 call got placed so quickly - they were watching for him. They also laid out a trap for the guy. He was running away when the armed men in the white pickup truck stopped him, threatened him with loaded guns, that is when he tried to defend himself and that is when they shot him dead...all while their good buddy videotaped it. While I get how this guy had been a nuisance and an ongoing frustration to these men, they had absolutely no authority to chase him down and try to capture him. They certainly had no right to shoot him dead on the street. The ones who brought guns into the situation were the aggressors. [/quote] Sorry, your logic doesn't hold. You don't "defend yourself" by tracking to grab the weapon of someone trying to keep you in place until the police arrives to clarify the nature of your REPEATED suspicious behavior. [/quote] Those men behaved like lunatics and that man acted as though his life was being threatened - which it clearly was. [/quote] Exactly. Those men had no authority to arrest him. He had no obligation to stop for someone who was chasing him down the street with a gun. They initiated the encounter, they pursued him, and they were not acting in self-defense. He was right to run away from them, and if he had his own weapon he would have been justified in shooting them. He was not committing a violent crime -- in fact, the owner of the site told the WaPo that he had never reported anything stolen. The victim was not a nuisance to the men who killed him. They didn't own the property. They were acting as vigilantes. [/quote]
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