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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]As bad as the transcript looks for Trump and his friends, the complaint must look much worse.  And the IC IG concurs.[/quote]

And, let's remember... A complaint does not equal facts.  Just because a "whistleblower" states something, doesn't make it true.  
Now, we need to hear from the whistleblower.  Who did he/she talk to to learn about this phone call?  What motivations does this person have?

The accusation surrounding the initial charge - [b]that Trump withheld money from Ukraine on the condition of an investigation into Biden[/b] - does not hold up.  Not even close.  
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It is what the Ukrainian government thought this summer, and there are witnesses to their concerns. Also, no one needs a direct threat in so many words. Withholding aid was a surprise to all officials in all government agencies. No one could figure out why the aid was not being sent until this scandal broke out in the open. The timing is enough, in this scenario, to conclude that the withholding was a nefarious tool to pressure the Ukrainian government.

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I feel like everyone is getting wound up over whether there is a quid pro quo.  There doesn't need to be a quid pro quo.  There also doesn't need to be a crime for impeachment - that's not the standard we hold our President to.  If the President asks a foreign leader for material assistance to his political campaign, that's enough.  [/quote]

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