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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Ladies, we are done being your meal ticket. Get a job like every adult. [/quote]
Men, we are tired of taking care of a man/child AND our children AND working FT.  Clean up after yourself, and take care of your children as well without another adult telling you or reminding you what needs doing. Yes, kids need more than junk food, shelter and clothing.. if you even pay attention to their clothing.[/quote]

You sound like you know some sub optimal men.

I am not perfect but - 
As far as being a husband goes: I am respectful (WE split responsibilities), I pay attention, I am fit, I am funny, and my wife's happiness matters very much to me.
As far as being a dad goes: I am very engaged in my 3 kids lives now and from the day each was born, including doing most of the doc visits, staying up late at night when they were 
infants and now helping with homework, coaching, and car pooling.
As far as being a provider, my income ranges from the high 800s to 1.4 per year and, while it involves travel and some very busy periods, such things are manageable.

My efforts buy me space when my wife wants to assert her opinion about doing things "the right way" (which is really just her way) because she knows I am no man child fudging it (she also likes how I turned out so when I press our son in a particular way that would not have occurred to her, she is aware I have a thoughtful basis.)

And most, if not all of my friends, are just like me.

There is a great expression: if you want to get something done, ask a busy person to do it.  The same thing applies here: competence flows across various things.  It is a product of energy, intelligence,  engagement and commitment.  If you know men who lack such capabilities, avoid.  If you know men who have them but only focus them on selfish pursuits, avoid. If you find one and see him execute at a high level, proceed (and try to limit the momsplaining, good dad's don't need too much of it.)

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My DH is all of the above but makes very little money as a teacher. You might want to park some of your arrogance about what high earning means. High competence is not exclusive to people earning $1million. Would love to know what noble, selfless profession you are in. Most men earning that amount are status seekers. [/quote]

Not PP, but that was a rude response.  He didn’t say people that don’t make 1 mil are incompetent. Of course there are hard working and talented people that make (much) less.  But there is also a lot of truth to what he said.  It is likely that someone making a very high income (trust fund kids not included) is doing so because they have made some smart decisions, know what opportunities to take, are highly skilled at something, and work hard.  All good qualities that often translate to other aspects of their life outside of work. [/quote]

Thank you pp. I posted the prior post and know full well the quality of people does NOT depend on their salaries. I am the son of two teachers (later administrators) and learned that cooperation and respect are essential to keeping a marriage and a family together - far more so than money. I also know that value comes from many things, and money is not at the top of the list.  That said, my profession does pay well but that is not the end of my responsibilities - husband and father also matter immensely.  Sorry if that sounded arrogant, my point was more that a man should be able to meet all of his responsibilities.  [/quote]

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