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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The person pretending to be a UVA person bashing Michigan is just trying to work people up. Anyone who went to UVA knows that Michigan (and Berkeley, UCLA, etc) [b]are excellent schools[/b] that are always in the same neighborhood in these rankings. [/quote]

No. They all are much better than Uva overall! [/quote]

Are they for undergraduates?  I've lived near both both Berkeley and UCLA and really, really question their commitment to educating undergraduates.  Have less insight to Michigan and UVA.[/quote]

Probably a good measure of focus on undergraduates is the Undergraduate Teaching ranking, which places the public schools as follows:

3. Georgia State
5. William and Mary
8. Miami University Ohio
10. ASU
12. UMBC
13. Michigan
23. Ohio State
23. UVA
34. UC Berkley
35. UC Riverside
29. Georgia Tech
40. UC Merced
40. UC Santa Cruz
40. U of Georgia
49. University of Central Florida
49. University of Florida
49. UT Austin

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