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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I cannot imagining my 2 year old in these conditions. This is making me physically ill. What monsters. How do they sleep at night?![/quote]

Ask Obama and his former administration the same question.  How did THOSE monsters sleep at night?

Why the sudden outrage?  I'm sure I'm much older than you are, and I cannot remember the uproar when Obama was in office.

But are we going to OVERLOOK the ACLU's findings?

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-obtains-documents-showing-widespread-abuse-child-immigrants-us-custody?redirect=news/aclu-obtains-documents-showing-widespread-abuse-child-immigrants-us-custody

[quote]The report is based on over 30,000 pages of documents dated between 2009 and 2014. The documents were obtained by the ACLU Foundation of San Diego & Imperial Counties and the ACLU Foundation of Arizona through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit co-counseled with Cooley LLP. The documents feature numerous cases of shocking violence and abuse against migrant children, many of whom arrived in the United States fleeing violence in their home countries.

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Law students in the International Human Rights Clinic examined a subset of the records obtained. The documents show numerous cases involving [b]federal officials’ verbal, physical and sexual abuse of migrant children; the denial of clean drinking water and adequate food; failure to provide necessary medical care; detention in freezing, unsanitary facilities; and other violations of federal law and policy and international law[/b]. The documents provide evidence that U.S. officials were aware of these abuses as they occurred, but failed to properly investigate, much less to remedy, these abuses.

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You know you have no defense when all you can do is deflect to Obama.[/quote]

I'm not deflecting, ding dong. I'm simply saying that NOTHING has changed.

Suddenly, however, with this president, there's outrage!

At least I can find evidence to show that for as much as things change they remain the same.   Why don't you find evidence to show that our current practices are VASTLY different from those in 2014 (and in years prior)?

I'll wait . . .  I have time today.[/quote]

Obama didn't institue the "zero tolerance" policy that punitively rips families apart.  Trump did.  That has changed.[/quote]

OK - great

But he also isn't sending children - who arrived unaccompanied - back over the border.

So which is better?  keeping the children, even if they're separated from adults?  (b/c both administrations were concerned about trafficking)  or sending them back? [/quote]
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I think it's better not to punish children by separating them from their family.[/b]  The Trump administration's concern for trafficking is not genuine and is not the impetus behind family separation.  Sadistic, cruel punishment is.  Nobody buys your faux concern BS.  Just own up to your sadism.[/quote]

These are kids whose parents separated their families themselves and paid human traffickers to traffic their kids to the border [/quote]

Oh that makes it OK then? Alrightee then carry on the cruelty just be sure and sign YOUR name (your family’s Name years hence) to it. Own your cruelty.[/quote]

Just correcting the incorrect assertion that anyone other than the parents separated these children. You're so spun up that you're not stating facts.[/quote]

That assertion is not incorrect.  You corrected nothing.[/quote]

You are wrong. A 5 year old isnt walking across 3 countries by himself to get to our border. The parents are paying traffickers.[/quote]

It's already been pointed out to you that family separation is ongoing.  Those children are coming in with, and being separated from, their families.[/quote]

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