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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Based on our suburban public school three years in a row

At most 1% of kids get into a top private. Here are some stats

Rank #3 - White female. Deferred from Stanford. Got into Brown and Duke. Went to state flagship

Rank #2 - Asian female, Applied ED to Penn, went to Penn

Rank #1 - Asian Male. Only got into Cornell and Dartmouth. Went to Dartmouth

Anecdotally, only URM's or diversity cases in our school make it to HYPSM

End of Story. [/quote]

I guess you can keep hating on minorities,  but the reality is that these schools are [b]still majority white[/b],  with a national demographic that is now nearly not for that cohort.  I have no idea what's going on with your school,  but it's not the case that white kids are locked out.  Not remotely true.  [/quote]

Incorrect.  Whites comprise less than 50% of the student body at most of the ivies.  White students are down to 36% of undergrads at Stanford. [/quote]

Here are facts:

The number of today's 17 and 18 year olds who are white is barely over 50%.  Hard to claim that there is any big disadvantage to being white.

Schools play with how they count ethnicity, including whether international students are in or out and percentages of admits versus students matriculating.  But most top schools are still majority white among US students, and once you get out of schools that are at the very top and/or in more urban areas, the percentage of white students soars (here's looking at you, Dartmouth, with 65% white).

There is no top ranked school that has a percentage of African Americans or Latinos (or Native Americans or Native Hawaiians/Pacific Islanders, for that matter) among their student body that exceeds the percentage in the population generally.  For URMs, every top school is LESS diverse than the national population of college-age people.

So, you can keep blaming minority students when your kid doesn't get in to a school, but that's just scapegoating.

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What is the distribution of races amongst college applicants?  [/quote]

Whites and Asians make up a huge proportion of those who are "college ready" based on test scores, so comparing their proportion to the general public is irrelevant.[/quote]

I found this interesting--the acceptance rate for all racial groups at Harvard has actually fallen in recent decades, with the *steepest* declines for African Americans and Latinos:

"...the acceptance rates for all racial groups did not fall at the same rate. [b]African-American applicants saw the steepest decline — their acceptance rates fell by 12.4 percentage points over 18 years.[/b] In the 1995-1996 admissions cycle, 19.2 percent of African-American Harvard hopefuls earned a spot at the College; in the 2012-2013 cycle, just 6.8 percent of African-American applicants did so.

[b]Hispanic-Americans saw the second-steepest decline of 8.9 percentage points, while white students saw a decline of 5.4 percentage points. Asian-American applicants saw the smallest decrease: their acceptance rate fell by just 3.6 percentage points in that time period."[/b]

This doesn't fit the popular narrative on DCUM that it's easier to get in for "URMs."  Looks like it's actually more difficult, relative to whites and Asian Americans, than it was a couple of decades ago.

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2018/10/19/acceptance-rates-by-race/[/quote]

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