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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] Again, do you think this is some kind of college dorm room debate? The cornerstone of safe biking is staying visible to cars and not getting yourself in a position where they'll run over you. The issue with crosswalks comes up mainly in the context of sidewalk biking, for which I provided extensive links. But I'll explain it again: when a bike (or scooter or other vehicle) comes off the sidewalk into the intersection (i.e., in a crosswalk) it is not visible to cars, because cars may not be able to see and don't expect to see something traveling at the speed of a bike in the crosswalk, and do not have time to stop. This applies equally to a bike path like in the video. Additionally, there are parked cars and trees and other obstacles that can make it hard for both bikers and car to see each other from the sidewalk. Thus, [b]the advice is to either get off your bike and walk it across the crosswalk[/b], or proceed VERY carefully and slowly if you are SURE that there are no cars approaching in any direction. [/quote] You keep saying that that's the advice. But who is providing this advice, besides you?[/quote] I posted a zillion links before. But here are some more. Again, they mostly discuss entering the intersection from a sidewalk or driveway, which is functionally similar as from a bike path in this case. https://www.npr.org/2016/10/16/496865680/6-things-you-need-to-know-about-cycling-on-the-sidewalk https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/bike-accidents-collisions-with-cars-29549-2.html https://www.bicycleaccidentprevention.com/ [/quote] None of these links advise people to walk their bicycles across intersections.[/quote] you just can't let this go, can you? I sincerely hope you're not actually out biking with your kids. [/quote] NP here. The advice I have seen is to cross at a pedestrian pace (because that is what drivers will be looking for) which does not mean dismounting. It looks like the family here was riding across at a pedestrian pace (and indeed, its hard for a young child to exceed such pace). And to look, yes, but that does not mean waiting till there is no car traffic anywhere. Once the walker or biker is in the crosswalk, the driver is expected to stop (in Va, to yield). [/quote] For a child across that intersection, absolutely dismount. That's why I said walk your bike. Biking VERY slowly is ok too, but it's actually hard to bike very slowly. If you're crossing an intersection without a lot of traffic and you have a clear view all ways, biking at pedestrian speed or a little faster is OK. But a high-speed arterial like that when you apparently don't have a clear view of all the traffic? Walk your bike, grownup or adult. [/quote] I often bike on trails. Sometimes I am behind a walker, and the bike traffic in the opposite direction makes it impossible to do a safe pass (I will NOT pass close to a walker, I want to give them room, ideally at least 3 feet). So I ride slowly. I am an adult, riding a hybrid bike, and I CAN maintain a pace of about 3MPH without falling. Note, the kid in this video was hardly even using his pedals, he was basically "flintsoning" across (I pushing the pavement with his feet) I cannot believe he is going over 3 or 4MPH an hour. If that is not safe, than walking across at quick walking pace is not safe. Does MoCo really think that is an acceptable standard for use of a crosswalk? [/quote]
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