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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Business -- Michigan 7, UVA 13 UMD 48
Education -- Michigan 14, UVA 16 UMD 33
Engineering -- Michigan 4, UVA 40 UMD 22
Law -- Michigan 8, UVA 9 UMD 49
Medicine -- Michigan 15, UVA 26 UMD31
Nursing -- Michigan 8, UVA 20 UMD 13
Biology -- Michigan 23, UVA 46 UMD 62
Chemistry -- Michigan 15, UVA 48 UMD 41
Computer Science -- Michigan 11, UVA 30 UMD 16
Math -- Michigan 12, UVA 47 UMD 22
Physics -- Michigan 13, UVA 44 UMD 14
Economics -- Michigan 12, UVA 29 UMD 21
English -- Michigan 8, UVA 6 UMD 30
History -- Michigan 6, UVA 18 UMD 27
Political Science -- Michigan 4, UVA 37 UMD 29
Psychology -- Michigan 3, UVA 17 UMD 39
Sociology -- Michigan 1, UVA 32 UMD 24

Just sayin[/quote]

and yet, de[b]spite all this, UVA is still the higher ranked national university for undergraduate education.  [/b]
Both are very good schools, but I suspect people around here lean toward UVA and people in the Midwest lean toward Michigan or Notre Dame.[/quote]

[b]+1.  Those that are unaware are probably older.  The college/university world has changed a lot in just the last five year.[/quote][/b]

Those of us who are older remember that there did not used to be a USNews ranking (which may have been the good old days given the issues that thing causes), then a USNews ranking with Berkeley rated highest among publics.  Then UVA actually first among publics for a number of years, and then recently has settled in behind Berkeley and UCLA.   We might also remember that it was tough to apply to lots of schools because there was no common application.

We remember the University of Chicago having near 50% acceptance rates and Penn having an acceptance rate in the 30% range and an SAT only slightly above W&M.    We remember that average SAT scores actually fell so much from the late 1960s that they had to recenter them to get the grades up (making the scores at college look a 100 points or so higher).  We remember when most schools had class ranks and they did not have multiple Valedictorians and Salutatorians.

It is possible that we might have some perspective.[/quote]

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