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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm a Veteran and I think this was a reasonable policy change.

Transgender persons, in my observations (admittedly only a few, in the last couple years before I separated from service) have a negative effect on small unit cohesion and moral, especially with younger enlisted personnel.

I have no issue with transgendered persons, I just don't think they belong in the military, because they have detrimental effect on other members who serve with them. I've seen this firsthand, and no amount of study-citing or name calling will convince me otherwise.

Unless you've served, frankly, your opinion isn't even valid. [/quote]

Again: this is exactly what was said about blacks, and women, and gays. Fear mongering. Next up you'll be talking about showers. The people who want to impede progress and equality always get real worked up about showers.[/quote]

This is not the same thing.  FWIW, there was an article in news yesterday by a female WP grad and an Army doctor.  The point of the article is that there are definitely additional physical risks to women and that the services need to make that clear.  And, there are different rules for women.  The transgender issue is much, much more complicated.

As far as transgenders currently serving, let's please not forget Bradley/Chelsea Manning--who I think is fighting to get reassignment surgery paid for by the taxpayers.  Great example.  And, yes, I know, a bad example.

The transgender issue is very fluid.  In fact, there is a "gender fluid" category these days, which means it can vary from day to day.  There is also a "gender neutral" category for some people.

There are some transgenders who want surgery and some who do not.  There are some who are still attracted to the opposite sex of their birth gender (Caitlin Jenner comes to mind) and have said they do not want the surgery (although, I think that may have changed recently).
If they do select gender reassignment, then that requires lots of counseling prior to this.  It removes them from

The military operates on rules and regulations.  How in the world is this worth the effort?  The training alone would be quite time consuming.  Do you have any idea how much sexual assault prevention training goes on these days?  There is still race relations training, as well.

This is a very, very difficult issue.  It is not comparable to integration--this involves logistics that were never considered when Obama put this forward.

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There are trans people serving now and there's been zero reports of it causing the sorts of problems these fear mongers are now saying would be inevitable.

And while you want to draw distinctions between how terrible trans people would be in the military as opposed to these other groups: the arguments are *exactly* the same. These are 100% the same fear mongering statements that folks used to try to keep blacks, women, and gays out of the military - before they were allowed in and it turned out to be just fine.

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