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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Exactly - what is the point of doing this assessment AFTER they have been admitted?

Its easy to say 'go back to base' but in reality - its a very hard thing to do and a vast majority dont go back to base and just will suffer thr 4 years at TJ.[/quote]

Right now the racial make up of the student body is:

ASIAN	                                        1,278	
BLACK (NOT OF HISPANIC ORIGIN)	118	
HISPANIC OR LATINO	                        155
TWO OR MORE	                                118	
WHITE (NOT OF HISPANIC ORIGIN)	437

If everyone that was accepted went to and stayed at TJ the student body would look like this:

ASIAN	                                        1,284
BLACK (NOT OF HISPANIC ORIGIN)	127	
HISPANIC OR LATINO	                        181
TWO OR MORE	                                122	
WHITE (NOT OF HISPANIC ORIGIN)	485

So ignoring the froshmores (I know there are a lot of them but there seems to be almost zero information about them).

We see a large gap among hispanic students (about 26 students) who presumably returned to their base school and white students (about 48 students).  I suspect that a lot of asians are leaving and getting replaced by froshmores.  The black kids are gutting it out.

[quote]Bring back a more objective test.  I agree the old process was crooked - kids shared the questions at Curie and those who went there had an advantage.

So maybe just use the 8/9 grade PSAT question paper as admissions criterion. It will surface the top kids ready for TJ and will not be subject to question leaks at Curie.[/quote]

[b]The problem is that any sort of testing is going to select for asians[/b].  Whenever you see people trying to eliminate testing (or any other objective measure of merit), they are trying to avoid over-selecting asians.  It's not that they don't want asians, they just don't want so many asians that everyone else gets crowded out.  So you reduce standards and make the admissions more random.  Once testing (or any other objective merit based criteria) becomes a significant part of the admissions decision you end up with too many asians.

The racial disparity existed before Quant Q.  It existed before Curie.  They used to use the SHSAT way back when and then started engaging in experimentation to try and get different racial results.

At least this way the pool of admitted students looks more diverse even if the diverse kids don't actually matriculate.  The freshman class[/quote]

Does it occur to you that the bolded statement is racist?
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Something like 1 or 2% of other groups get above a 1500 on the SATs.
Aboust 10% of asians get above a 1500 on the SAT.[/quote]

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