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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]By scoring points I mean dogmatic refusal to e gage with main points being raised and playing Gotcha games with red herrings.[/quote]

You claimed "miracles".  I responded to that and that alone.  You then denied it.  I showed the post where you did.  So, yeah, I guess I "gotcha" but if the alternative is to let you be dishonest, I'll stick with "gotcha".

[quote]The empirical evidence supports that a large number of scientists do not see faith and religion as being in conflict. [/quote]

This is not disputed by anyone.[/quote]

Please reread past posts -it was disputed [/quote]

Please reread past posts - no one disputed the numbers you posted.[/quote]

There were entire pages of claims that it is not possible for religious people to be good scientists. When evidence of large numbers of very good scientists identifying as religious was presented, the claim  was made they were either too old or dead already. Barbour was dismissed as a weak scientist and his typology of the four different kinds of models for relationship between science and religion was attacked.

It took many posts with different kinds of evidence to demonstrate that the relationship between religion and science does not need to be seen as being in conflict. [/quote]

At the risk of being accused of "gotcha" again:

There is a giant difference between the claim you made I was responding to:

[quote]The empirical evidence supports that a large number of scientists do not see faith and religion as being in conflict.[/quote]

and the one you just made:

[quote]the relationship between religion and science does not need to be seen as being in conflict.[/quote]

The former is the one to which I responded "This is not disputed by anyone".    The latter is a matter of opinion, and very different.

I am sure you understand the difference.[/quote]

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