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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You people are absolutely f'ing deranged. I am Iranian. My parents are Iranian. My entire very large extended family is Iranian. Every. Single. One. of the Iranian people I know are absolutely THRILLED with this turn of events. They are literally taking to the streets and celebrating, including here in DC.

I am a lifelong progressive Democrat. Typically, progressives center the narratives of people directly affected and allow them to define their own oppression. But now that they see an opening to criticize Israel (75% of this thread is foaming-at-the mouth, over-the-top, ISIS-level anti-Israel conspiracy propaganda), suddenly what actual Iranians say and feel doesn't matter to them at all. I don't care that Israel was involved here. I simply do not care. If they're the ones that create a catalyst for change in my country that ends up freeing 93 million people from the hellscape they've been living in, great. You people are so BLINDED by your maniacal hatred of Israel and to a lesser extent Trump (who I'm no fan of generally) that you can't perceive the absolute absurd hypocrisy of your position.

It's fine to object to this on the basis that it's not America's affair and they should stay out of it, because tax dollars or whatever BS (so far, only six American service members have (tragically) died, so I really don't think it's concern for our troops). Immoral position to take in the face of this regime, but ok. That's not what most of this thread is doing, though. People are instead moralizing at actual Iranians and pretending to care about the girls school that was bombed (unconfirmed that this was even Israel/the US and not Iran itself) or the future of Iran. Where were you when this regime murder FORTY THOUSAND OF ITS OWN PEOPLE?? When it tortured dissidents in secret prisons, threw acid on women for not covering their hair, literally went into hospitals where protesters were being treated and shot them point blank in the head? You don't give one flying f about Iranian people. Please don't pretend otherwise.

As far as I can tell, so far, all America has done is kill (extremely justifiably) a bunch of monstrous butchers and weakened their grip on power. This may or may not lead to regime change, but I can tell you for damn certain the regime is not going to be able to carry on the same way after this. Absolute WORST case scenario, the regime persists but its nuclear ambitions are done for and it becomes more friendly to US interests.  
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Two things can be true at once. The Ayatollah was bad (was going to say the world is better off now, but I'm honestly not certain that is true bexause of the way this has been handled) AND this administration is a clown show being led around by the nose by Israel AND international law and human rights are being violated, and for what reason, the administration has not been able to clearly communicate.[/quote]

Okay so why do my kids need to die for this? We can’t go around doing things so other people can be happy at our expense. We need health care in America. We need to support our next generation. Not get into random wars because some people are happy.[/quote]

Exactly six American servicemembers have died in this conflict so far. Far less than the number of Americans killed by the Iranian regime and its proxies. Pipe down. [/quote]

For once Americans are finally thinking “those six kids could be my kids.”  That’s what it means to be part of a united nation.

Our kids can’t be cannon fodder for the sake of the Iranian people.  Sorry. [/quote]

Cannon fodder?

Ridiculous. More died in car accidents and from overdoses yesterday than in this conflict.

Odds of significant numbers of US casualties = 0.[/quote]

Do you want to call the parents and children of the dead to let them know when they're significant?[/quote]

I will, if you’ll call the families of the thousands previously killed by Iran and its proxies and explain why you are an apologist for the mullahs.[/quote]

Why do you hate the US so much? How many more Americans have to die for the state of Israel? Fight your own wars. I am sure you can get the Haredi to step up and enlist in the IDF…oh wait they refused to fight for Israel. Kind of like you? [/quote]

Lol. I live within 45 minutes of multiple bases and these people are my friends. My kids go to school with theirs. We go on base for events.

I admire and respect them more than someone like you could possibly understand.

You want to hope that the US fails bc you hate Israel?

That’s your prerogative, but understand that it disgusts me and people like me.[/quote]

To to think this war somehow equates to success for the United States is your prerogative, but that view disgusts me and I also I have military friends and family. [/quote]

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