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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I want to know who the VIP was? If Trump is canceling private security for former government employees with credible threats against them, why are we risking civilian lives to ferry some blowhards across the river because they don’t want to sit in traffic. Given how defensive Trump was at his press conference I’m guessing that it was for a nonessential employee, friend or family member. [/quote]

I really want to know this too. Also, was it someone coming in or someone going out. Feel like people are concentrating on the PILOT name when this info is the real potential scandal. [/quote]

Thank you! So glad someone else here has eyes.

The lack of a vip name is the real mystery.

Without the vip, the flight would not have happened at all!

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Why is that a mystery? That is the reason we have helicopters in DC.  Helicopters flying around DC is nothing new.  The mystery is why a helicopter flew into a passenger jet for seemingly no reason at all, and after being warned.  [/quote]

And the helo would not have been there if it had not been used like a Lyft or Uber by a VIP to get to Langley.

See how that works?

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No.  A Black Hawk should be able to get from point A to point B without crashing into a passenger jet.  These planes and their pilots are trained to navigate war zones [/quote]

Sort of. A huge part of the narrative here is the amount of air traffic around National and how it has been steadily ramping up, and increasing the likelihood of a crash, for years. If it turns out this helicopter trip was completely unnecessary, that is an important part of the story because if we want to prevent incidents like this from happening in the future, it's likely that we need to reduce the number of helicopters in that air space. If transport of VIPs is a major reason for the amount of traffic, then that needs to be addressed. There are other ways of moving VIPs around safely and still efficiently (and likely much more cheaply).

Also not all Army pilots are trained to "navigate war zones." Some spend their entire careers doing peacetime transport in the US or foreign bases with no danger of engagement. And even those who are trained for war zones -- they can't use the same training when navigating air space near a busy commercial airport in the US. In a war zone there is an expectation that everyone in the area is at risk of injury or death. If a BH collides with an enemy aircraft in a war zone, it's still a tragedy, but in a different way than a collision with a commercial jet full of civilians in the US.[/quote]

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