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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I've never read anything about how this plays into the theories. Elaborate.

"which would explain the encocropesis that is made so much of in all of the theories."[/quote]

A lot of people have pointed to the fact that Burke had accidents frequently and did some odd poop play as evidence of his sexual abuse and general perversion/oddity. [b]Kids with ASD are way more likely to have chronic constipation and have accidents. [/b][/quote]

Compared to whom and according to whom?[/quote]

Compared to neurotypical children and according to every doctor or research person that works with children with autism.  See, as one of thousands of examples, http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0300443032000079069. Kids with neurological conditions generally have low tone with causes issues with bowel movements. Seriously, though, this is not a peer review board, stop demanding a citation for noncontroversial statements. Also, google is your friend if you are really interested. [/quote]

I'm not the poster asking about Burke, but please stop posting crap about people on the spectrum.  What you said is not true and the article you cited, says that "No data for children on the spectrum were found in the literature search, and indeed very little research related to this topic..."

Yeah, kids on the spectrum can have communication or behavioral issues that make them difficult to potty train, but stop making sweeping generalizations about autism.
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DP. Ugh. Please stop, guys. No one is going to post any theories if they have to back up everything with sources and constantly worry about who might take things the wrong way and be offended. [/quote]

A theory is a theory.  Everything about the Ramsay murder is speculative b/c we don't know.   However, don't state things as part of a theory that are factually untrue.  For example, Jenny McCarthy did this for years about vaccines causing autism, which is untrue, but many, many people still believe it.

Facts are facts.  Stick to them.[/quote]

It is [b]indeed a well established fact [/b]that children with autism and other neurological issues are [b]more likely [/b]to have encopresis and toilet training issues. I am not sure what objection you have to accepting basic facts, but lets take a look:

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01058155
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0891422208001753 - noting specifically, Children and adults with developmental disabilities are more likely to evince encopresis, soiling and constipation than the general population. This set of related behaviors can produce a great deal of stress and can be a major restriction in independent living.

Also, from several know autism sites:
http://www.autism-help.org/behavior-soiling-encopresis.htm
http://www.myaspergerschild.com/2011/07/aspergers-children-and-encopresis.html
http://www.airpnetwork.org/atf/cf/%7B21E91B8F-D0F9-424E-8242-C281E1B81562%7D/guide_for_managing_constipation.pdf

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I think the question was someone said [b]Burke was ASD or had autism and someone asked for THAT to be backed up[/b]. [/quote]

I think that is just a theory. We do know that he had a fine motor delay, Patsy testified about that, and apparently that was corroborated - she had to tie his shoes still - and so it does not seem likely that he could have tied the knots. But it did seem odd that she was so insistent on the point. I think - and this is my theory, source wingnut - that Patsy was a caring if odd mom - the pageant stuff is so weird to me - and it really does not sound like she hit or abused her kids. She was running JB to the doctor constantly - would you be doing that if you were an abuser, does anyone know anything about that? Or if you suspected a family member of abuse?

The clothes/makeup thing is odd. I know when we are leaving early for a flight, not that we have a private plan, ha, I make sure to get totally ready and then wake the kids up and dress them quickly. IT sounds like she was ready to go make coffee and get them going. They were leaving a 7 and this was after 5. They had to get to the airport, and they could not call and cancel the plane without looking incredibly suspicious. They knew that they had no way to get the body out of the house. I wonder how that factors into the ransom note? Why would they write it if they knew the body was going to be in the house? Regardless of who did it?[/quote]

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