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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am literally nauseous reading the posts trying to excuse this rapist.[/quote] He is not being excused, but it's naive to trust everyone at a party to care about our personal safety. So, right or wrong, fair or not, we need to take steps to look out for ourselves. I remember reading a poster talking about her experience on the metro. When she found herself alone in a car, she switched to another one. That's being smart. Doesn't mean she's 100% safe. Doesn't mean an attacker doesn't deserve punishment. [/quote] This makes about as much sense as requiring women to wear burqas. By this logic, one should never leave the house, or even their bed, because of all the dangers out there. I was raped at a college party. I had one drink, which turned out to be grain alcohol - something I'd never heard of at the time. Unfortunately, I did not black out; I simply couldn't move. The rapist removed one leg of my pants and one leg of the tights I was wearing underneath them. That took some very deliberate effort, yet you'd put the focus on MY actions. I don't even have words to describe how this line of thinking disgusts me.[/quote] I'm truly sorry for your pain and what you went through. These comments aren't about blaming the victim. It's about trying to be as safe as possible. Are you disgusted when abused women are advised to go to a safety house and not tell anyone where they're living? It's what is viewed as taking safety precautions for them and their children. Is it fair? Is it right? Why should the wife and kids leave? It's about safety.[/quote] You're equating spousal abuse to attending a college party? Because there would be no rapists at all if women just took better care of themselves. Maybe carry a card in our wallets reminding us that every man we meet is a potential violator, so take precaution. [/quote] Not to mention that the PP has her/his head up their ass if they think we aren't also a domestic-violence-victim-blaming society. It's a joke. Yes, PP, we as a society do in fact blame victims of domestic violence. To take your analogy to its conclusion, just so you GET IT, if a victim is "advised" to uproot their life and go live in secret with a bunch of strangers, thereby elevating her risk of future violence, yes, we blame the shit out of her if she doesn't actually do it. But go read the newspaper and see how many murder-suicides there are of women and kids by men AFTER they left and tell me how that safety talk goes. It's more complicated than that and your oversimplification is just as dangerous as all the others on here. [/quote] If you're the same poster picking and choosing posted info and misinterpreting it on purpose, you have a problem with the way you continually and angrily demean other people's opinions. I know what we teach middle school and high school kids in my school system about personal safety, alcohol, drugs, emotional and physical abuse by a girlfriend/boyfriend, consensual sex, and rape. We do NOT blame victims. We DO try to teach them how to be safe to the extent possible. Will add that no one on this thread has implied or said (as you put it) "there would be no rapists at all if women took better care of themselves."[/quote]
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