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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The post listed violent events by Muslims, many of which were politically motivated.  It is not a synopsis of Islamic history over the past 1400 years.  Some of it is typical stuff done by invaders of the past whatever their nominal religion.  One could put together a similar list of what invaders and conquerors who were nominally Christian did in the past.

Also, none of the examples had Muslims murdering women and babies.

Not sure what your point is in citing such random examples.[/quote]

Yes, it did list circumstances of babies and children being murdered. And I addressed the topic of the Crusades as well, I would happily put together a list if that history was repeating itself right now.

I've given instances of violent Islamic history from 700 AD to the present, but you would like to state that these are random examples.  Understanding the past is the only way to understand the motivations of these groups in the present.

Religious zealots motivation by conversion through force or death or ethnic cleansing and power hungry political motivation can be two sides of the same coin, sharing a common bond by those that commit these atrocities in an alliance.

But we can keep saying the past has nothing to do with the present and this is just a completely random wrong interpretation of Islam and that the terrorists actions are an anomaly of Islamic history because these actions were just so "typical" back then.

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Seemed more like a very one-sided and biased list from an Indian (just guessing here, not that it even matters) person.  You left out huge swaths of Islamic history and focused almost exclusively on India, where muslim-hindu relations have always been tense and atrocities have been carried out by both sides (yet you made no mention of those). That has been, historically, a deeply divided part of the world and relations were made even worse by the mentality that the British colonialists promoted.  I don't think including politically motivated events and saying they are representative of islamic history is being objective in any way, sorry.[/quote]

I never stated I was listing the entirety of Islamic history.  I listed examples of Islamic violence throughout different centuries because if it's relevance to current events.

When much of Islamic history and Islamic violence was centered around that region of the world then obviously many of the examples will be from that region of the world.  There is no bias in that, it's history pure and simple.  We can now look to that history and try to better understand what is going on in this part of the world now.

I can't list numerous examples Islamic violent history and holy wars in Iceland, Australia, or Mexico if the history is not there.  That's like saying why are we always talking about North America with regards to Columbus, that history is bias or why do we always center on Germany or Europe with regards to Hitler and WWII the history is biased. That's where that history took place.

And while there has been tense Muslim-Hindu relations ( also Muslim-Sikh, Muslim-Jewish and Muslim-Christian and Muslim-Muslim within sects) we are currently not at war with anyone promoting a Sikh, Hindu, Jewish or Christian holy war against us, thus the topic of Islamic holy wars and the violence that has been used with that regard.

Again, speaking about this history is not me saying Muslims are bad. Muslims should not be treated wrongly because of the actions of some.  It's something to learn from as to prevent repetition and to understand the current situation better.  Its a painful history.

The current ISIS issue is being called political, the history I listed you call political. The perpetrators of all of this say it is religious.  I'll say again that religiously motivated or politically motivated,  it's 2 sides of the same coin.

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