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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Even at places like Harvard or Stanford, professors complain students are not prepared for college. In Purdue, which isn’t easy to get into for engineering and CS, professors complain that most of their class are using AI and not learning the material. These colleges regularly turn away straight A students, so what is going on?[/quote]

Test optional made it more difficult for the smartest kids to get accepted, and created a situation where the schools were flooded with grade inflated kids with great parent or college consultant "edited" essays who were wholly unprepared for the rigorous university programs.

That and covid cheating culture / grade inflation.[/quote]
So what’s the excuse for the freshman classes that are test required and still not great students…?[/quote]

You do know there are SAT 1300 even 1200s got into Harvard, and 1600 ones rejected outright? plus grade inflation, faked research/non-profit,  not naming others, it's perfect condition for those faked kids sneak in.[/quote]

+1. DC 1570 SAT with very little prep other than a few practice tests, highest rigor academics, 4.6 GPA, three varsity sports, PT job, tons of volunteering and shut out of T20. However, DC wrote own essays and didn't have any manufactured ECs. [/quote]If you want it to be based on test scores, go to China.  We want more from our top students.  You'll never understand. [/quote]

NP. You said this only because you want elite college admissions to contain a larger percentage of factors where parental wealth can control, such as buying research experience/publications, creating bogus non-profit/charity, and paying for essays. You don't really care or want more from our top students. You only want your wealth to exert an influence on the admissions process, thus helping your less-than-stellar test-taking kids.[/quote]

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