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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The only way for private schools to be more economically diverse in this area to offer school vouchers so that any kid can go to any school they want and are capable of getting in. The vouchers would have to be enough to at least the tuition amount of the lowest private school. This program would force public schools to shape up their curriculum and quality if they want to stay open. Open competition is always a good thing.[/quote]

Texas is starting this program next year and you can already see the MC families gaming the system to get their kids priority.  Private school applications at my kids’ school was up 270% this year.  Really it is taking money away from the public schools and sponsoring MC families to go to private school.  My kid was already in private with ADHD - we have parents pay tuition so this is just a discount for already wealthy people.  The politicians know this.[/quote]

It's not taking money away, the money follows the kids. If the MC kid isn't there, the school doesn't get the money. The school that kid goes to gets instead. What's the problem?[/quote]

Let me explain - I’ll make the math easy.

Say a public school gets 10k for a 10 kid class now.  With the vouchers 5 of those public school kids go to private school and augment that 2x.  The public school now has 5k and the private (now with 10k extra) can raise their tuition 7%, plus they still have large endowments to buy extras that the public school cannot afford.  The private school kids get much much more, while the public schools suffer more. It’s really very simple.

It will pass legislation because people like me want the discount and people like you think you can get a better education.  It’s already got my vote and my kids would be attending private anyway.  So my tax money earmarked for a public school I don’t use is now going to subsidize my kid instead of yours.[/quote]

Forgot to mention - those private schools that will accept he influx of ex-public kids will just get harder to get into, so they’ll rely more on legacy and recommendations - so if you’re not already upper class the door will shut tight and be sealed.[/quote]

Maybe it's time for the rich people in publics to open their checkbooks and donate to their public schools the way private school parents do. There are quite a few of them according to PPs in here. Write those checks, and be the change. Don't they believe in their school enough to support it and help cover the needs?[/quote]

Yeah every April 15th[/quote]

Private school parents pay for public school too.  And they pay a lot more than most.[/quote]

Private school parents do not pay a lot more than most for public school through taxes. In absolutely numbers, working class people pay more as there are more of them. Your individual tax payment is a drop in the bucket in the city budget. Your payment is much closer to the individual payment of a working class person than it is to the receipts of the city’s top taxpayers (they aren’t individuals). Get over yourself. You aren’t that rich, you aren’t that smart. [/quote]

They are the type to say “we pay the bills around here”. No, you just pay your kid’s tuition. That’s like someone who pays tuition at Harvard saying they pay the bills around Harvard. You don’t pay the teacher’s salary, your tuition is less than the lowest paid teacher.[/quote]

You and PP need a quick lesson in simple math (obviously public school education).  A tax payer who makes $1M (and many private school parents do) has an average effective tax rate of about 10%. A person with an income of $150k (MC) has an effective tax rate of 8%.  DC uses approximately 20% of tax revenue for public schools.  So the private school parents pays 20k/yr for your kid to go to school and the MC person pays $2400.  So, yeah, rich people are already subsidizing your kids.  Stop whining and wanting more money from us.  And YES I’m absolutely voting for vouchers because I’d rather get a discount to send my kid to private school than pay for your kids.[/quote]

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