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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]I think if you took away all their photos and social media the luster would be gone for them.[/b] They seem to want to be this way for online bragging rights?

It would be an amazing social experiment to black box anyone having an experience. You get to have the experience, but no recording. Still happy?

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I think this is a huge part of it. Camera phones + SM have changed a lot of things, and Disney parks are a flashpoint.[/quote]

And to be fair it's not just Disney.  I'm the poster who's been to the Netherlands a lot for work and family and the number of people who go into Mauritshuis just to get in a line to take a picture with Girl with a Pearl Earring and then leave is pretty sad.  I'm not sure they even look at the painting.

I also think Disney is trading in nostalgia from being better when people were kids, so they get the warm fuzzies.  I remember just how amazing that puppet parade they had at EPCOT was. So they're trading off nostalgia for adults while not actually building those fundamental experiences with today's kids.[/quote]

What are these puppets you keep talking about?[/quote]

The millennium puppet parade. I grew up in Orlando and back then Disney had a lot of opportunities to go for free (my choir and band performed a lot and they'd give us free tickets).  My younger sibling got to dance with the puppets.

When I worked at Disney we also had a roving talking robot in our section (a guy dressed as a tourist was secretly controlling it from a few feet away).[/quote]

Back then was like 30 years ago. No wonder you seem so out of touch.[/quote]

A) Again, I kept season status going for quite a while when I visited home and B) I still know people who work there because some of my work friends stayed on.[/quote]

You’re the fool who was insisting that you had to book restaurants “6 months in advance!” Again and again. You know nothing.[/quote]

Good lord, it was absolutely true for certain things for a while (Be Our Guest when it first opened?).  Being pedantic isn't cute.

I mean if you want to see why people hate Disney adults, this right here.  We got harassed by people like this all the time.[/quote]

DP here. I don’t think it’s “pedantic.” You are trying to act like an expert while judging Disney Adults but also revealing your information is very outdated. [/quote]

Denying the Enshittification is a bizarre take.  I'm in a position to be familiar with the decline basically over decades.  It accelerated significantly post COVID.

Again what we're conveying is Disney is taking away things that made the parks better while asking you to pay more and more money.  And pay for things that used to be free.

You want to buy into that, fine.[/quote]

No one’s denying that it’s more expensive and things that were once free now have a charge to them. But that pretty much describes most of life in the United States these days. If you have the money and still have fun there, it’s not a morally inferior vacation to beaches, skiiing, national parks, whatever. Our friends are obsessed with pricy camping gear and checking off National parks that have gotten far more crowded than in days past. That would not be my choice for repeated vacations but they enjoy it and that’s all I need to know. I’m happy for them. [/quote]

I’m not sure about morally inferior given that we’re talking about vacations, but Disney is definitely an intellectually inferior vacation to visiting national parks, going abroad to experience other cultures, and other trips I’m not going to bother to name because you’ll just disagree.

You don’t learn anything at Disney except maybe at Animal Kingdom. You don’t experience other cultures (yes, I’ve been to Epcot multiple times). You don’t see historically significant locations. Etc, etc. [/quote]

There are lots of people who go to Disney to relax and travel lots of others places for "intellectual stimulation".  And there are lots of people who go to Europe or Asia and do nothing more intellectually stimulating than clicking a picture in front of a famous building or painting.  So, I don't think this is the argument you think it is.
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