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Nature is "nasty, brutish, and short." It is "red in tooth and claw." We know this.

All-natural things:
- Venomous snakes
- Poisonous mushrooms
- Foxglove plant
- High cliffs
- Giardia in the water[/quote]

I’m the PP who wrote about the perfect state of nature, and I want to make clear I 100% agree with you. I’m just saying what I see: beneath all the rationales, an assumption that because our bodies and our children’s bodies are beyond what we humans could possibly make on their own (miraculous!), with immune systems that do incredible things (so amazing!), that “natural” is inherently better.

Cancer is often “natural,” and yet can be deadly.
Type 1 diabetes is “natural,” and it is fatal without medical intervention.
The bubonic plague and smallpox and Ebola and rabies are all natural. 
Rust is natural, and so is tetanus.

But I do think it’s hard to see that doing nothing > intervention in a healthy child, since people typically don’t see the counterfactual to herd immunity, as, say, Ronald Dahl did.  [/quote]

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