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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why does the GOP hate government workers so much? They’re paid less than private industry and no raise this year but an increase in healthcare premiums. I don’t understand where the deep loathing comes from? [/quote]

I live in northern Virginia near Herndon.  my gov workers call it middle class welfare.   one works at commerce.   he is middle manager and does so little work.  he says it is like 20% of private industry, mainly herding the cats of incompetent workers that have been hired to work there.   the deep state is there because these people are incapable of working anywhere else .

my own personal experience working as a contractor at GSA was similar.  6 to 2:30 shifts.   no one did anything before 9:00.  then of course a couple meetings and lunch.  then not too long to fight the long commute south.   you could fire 50% and the office would be better off.

then there is the secret agencies.   never worked there but had 2 friends.  one from CIA and retired with huge pension and health care covered.   he always had his weekends free during his work years,. never worked late, and now he is a multi millionaire after working for the government.

another one was LT colonel when retired , got huge pension with cola, and then worked as contractor , now he has huge sound side property and condo and lives like a king.

that is where the deep loathing comes from.[/quote]

So, “secret” agencies get the same pension as everybody else — and it’s not enough to live on in the DMV, especially if you still have a mortgage or college expenses (it’s about 1/3 of your original pay after paying for health insurance (we pay a portion, and it’s not cheap), taxes, etc.).  Anyone with a “huge” pension retired under the old system, when they basically got their regular pay in retirement.  That went out the door long ago.

I don’t know who you hang out with, but most of the feds I know work long hours and very few of my colleagues are incompetent — I’m not saying they aren'; there, but if a manager has a lot of incompetent employees that he’s herding, then he’s doing a poor job as a manager.  Those that work 6-2:30 usually do so due to long commutes (many of my colleagues live really far out) or are trading off family duties with a spouse (I arrive/leave early and my husband arrives/leaves later); anyone in management is working more than 8 hours.  I get to work at 6:30 because I can’t get anything done once the meetings start.  Meetings usually start between 8-9 and you can have one after another.

Where former feds make money is when they retire and come back as contractors, because they will receive their pension (again, it’s only about 1/3 of your pay), but then they get their contractor pay.  [/quote]

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