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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m a huge believer and proponent of the SLAC model, but really do worry that name recognition will be a handicap throughout life.  The exceptions are probably limited to only Williams and Amherst imo, and unfortunately those will be a crapshoot for my unhooked high stats kid.  Do either of those schools try to yield protect during RD by rejecting ivy-looking kids? May call me myopic or narrow minded, but I’ve told him those are the only 2 SLACs he can apply to [/quote]
Your kid will not get into Williams/Amherst without a hook. [/quote]

My kid’s paid college advisor told us that every year there are about 50-75 unhooked spots at each of these two schools.  And about 15,000 applications at each. So what I’m telling you is, there IS a chance!  LoL. [/quote]

170 athletes, not 250. The school says about 30%.
I call bs on those numbers - that simply can’t be true [/quote]

250 athletes (50 percent), 75-100 Posse, other FGLIs and geographic diversity, 75-100 relevant legacies and other VIPs. [/quote]
Neither Williams or Posse students to posse and posse isn’t even FGLI; it’s a merit scholarship. And no liberal arts college accepts more than about 20 or so posse scholars a year. Williams has not released an official number of legacies or vips, and similar liberal arts colleges have no where near 75 students in a single class at legacy (peer CMC only gave admission to 15 legacy students: [url]https://tsl.news/5c-students-weigh-in-as-california-ends-legacy-admissions/amp/[/url]). So you’ve just made up a bunch of crap.[/quote]

So out of 15,000 applications and 50 percent athletes and 25 percent FGLI (FG and/or LI) and a class enrollment of ~500, exactly how many unhooked spots are there?  [/quote]
Way more than you’re willing to admit.[/quote]

Seriously, offer up a number if you don’t agree with mine.  My daughter was heavily recruited for a sport at Amherst but passed and ended up at an Ivy.  My next child looked at the school during that time and loved it. Better grades and test scores than the older but we realized she could not get in and in fact our school’s Naviance scattergram showed no one had ever gotten in without a sport. Our school does not have FGLI kids but it can produce athletes.  I had no idea how selective it was until I took that deep dive.

So what is your number?[/quote]
You know your claims can be wrong without their being a precise number. [/quote]

But they aren’t wrong.  Or at least they are directionally correct.  125 FGLI (per their web site), 250 athletes (per common knowledge that it’s 50 percent) = 375.  Even if no VIPs and no geographic diversity, that leaves about 100 spots right?  Assume some overlap and if you have say 50 VIPs you are left with ~75 unhooked spots.  Where’s the flaw in my logic? Yes there is some overlap between VIP and athlete or athlete and FGLI, but having had a child go through the recruiting by process, I can attest very little.  Again, where’s the flaw in the logic here?  [/quote][/quote]

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