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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Really hard to feel sorry for people when the athletic hook doesn’t work for them. [/quote]

It’s not hard if you’re not an ahole because you know how much work the kid put into it.[/quote]

Our kids who study hard, act in plays, win speech & debate competitions, tutor peers, and write for the paper also are kids who put a lot a lot of work in. they just don't feel as entitled to gain admission with lower academic standards!

why should students whose EC is sports gain admission with lower academic standards to play sports that don't bring any benefit to the school's other students? who watches cross-country, volleyball, squash, etc.?

at least diversity helps everyone by not having people in bubbles.[/quote]

As a parent of a D1 athlete and another who was heavily involved in school ECs, there’s no comparison. The D1 athlete’s commitment was exponentially higher, and the non-athlete child would agree.  The pressure she was under to perform at her sport and to peak at exactly the right time in state and national level competition was nothing like writing for the school paper.

I’m extremely proud of both of them, but the fact that the athlete’s grades lagged in comparison to the EC kid is completely justified considering the level of commitment. And it made sense to me that the athlete ended up at an Ivy with slightly lower grades and considerably lower test scores, whereas the other student with the 1500 SAT did not. [/quote]

That is so wrong. So wrong. It's sad that you, a reasonably intelligent adult, would think like this.

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Being one of the best athletes in your sport ever in your 100 year old HS, and one of the top 75 athletes in your sport in the country (among thousands of participants) in your graduation year AND finishing in the top 5 percent of your class at the same time is more impressive than finishing in the top 2 percent and writing for the school paper.  I witnessed the determination that both took, and it just is.  No one could ever convince me otherwise.   
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I’ve got two family members ranked nationally top ten and went to D1 then pro along with friends. They didn’t work harder than kids involved in other activities.   That’s obnoxious to say.  If the genetic talent for sports is there that student who plays varsity will beat out the kid who plays on varsity and a year round club sports 6 days a week.    Maybe your child had to work harder than others, had the talent and made it but that’s not every athlete.

And some parents don’t understand that you can’t buy the talent no matter how many private coaches and club teams you play on.   Most pro athletes were great athletes in all of the major sports.  They didn’t specialize early on.  Tom Brady was recruited for pro baseball after high school but he played football in high school and decided to go that route.

My 12 year old daughter is 5’8” already and has the build of a basketball player.  She doesn’t have the talent though so she plays rec.   Know when to step back and let your kid enjoy high school.  [/quote]

Pro athletes need both the genetics and work at their sport 60 hours per week through training, practice, etc.  Caleb Williams had a crazy training schedule when he was at Gonzaga.  It’s the kids with the genetic talent and the work ethic that make it.

Also, most pro athletes were not in fact great at multiple sports as you are completely ignoring the international factor in most pro sports.  Almost no pro soccer or hockey players ever played other sports because international systems don’t work that way.  The DR produces the most MLB players per capita and those kids don’t play other sports…again, they are going to full time MLB academies at 12.

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You’re right I didn’t think of the international factor.   I wasn’t thinking about soccer at all.  Some of highest paid athletes, football players, can easily start in high school.  They need the drive and work ethic but genetics have to be there.

Americans are introduced to all sports and as a result are more likely to play more than one sport.

The Dominican Republic is remarkable with their success in baseball.  I understand why they would focus only on baseball.

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