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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]the only liberal arts college that any serious students want to go to are williams and amherst - they are the only T20 equivalents in the country for SLACs - then you start gapping down, same way kids who are rejected ED from T20s start adjusting expectations [/quote]

Your entire statement is just nonsensically stupid....

From another thread, they pretty much nailed it:

"I don't get the obsession, especially by certain groups. For far too many kids (and families) it is really about bragging rights within their communities.

Undergraduate education is about baseline learning and having peer groups who push you to excel, it isn't about 8 schools in an athletic conference which has reached 'mythic' status in the eyes of some. These are great schools but they are all very different and none of them are absolute unicorns in any field.

Looking at student bodies they are among about 40 schools (universities and SLACs) with mostly indistinguishable student academic profiles, their students aren't all unicorns they are merely among a very very smart subset of students.

They don't do anything unique for these students either, schools mostly teach form the same books and it makes complete sense, they are teaching baseline knowledge.

Their real defining characteristics are that they are mostly located in the Northeast relatively close together and they mostly very old. The simple fact that Cornell gets the same level of attention as the others is "prima facie" evidence that there isn't something unique here; it is nothing like the others except for geography.

The fact that some people try to further define most of these schools with things like 'HYPSM' is further evidence that it is about nothing except a need for some to try and feel superior to others. The need for these things is driven by insecurity."

They wrote this about HYPM fetishizing but it is just as applicable to your Williams/Amherst drivel as well. HYPSM is nothing special and WASP is nothing special. They are two groups of schools who are part of a much larger group which educate kids in the top 1-3% from an academic POV. They do not have a monopoly on students of that caliber but they are unique in their student bodies being mostly composed of students of that caliber. [/quote]

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