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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]When I was a graduate student then a postdoc years ago, every time I would be really annoyed when the advisor assigned an undergraduate to me.  It's a liability.  Was at Cal.[/quote]

Or you could see it as a failed opportunity for developing your mentorship and people management skills. I bet you’re not good at those even now.

I actually had positive experiences with assigned undergrads during my doctorate. You get what you put in.[/quote]

You must be joking.  The advisor is just shifting their own work onto you, because they don't want to do it.  As a grad student or postdoc, you have limited time and more important things to do than to deal with undergrads.[/quote]

I’m not joking. That’s how you develop soft people skills, project management etc. In your career you’ll have to deal with people less knowledgeable than you are that need to be motivated and trained. You definitely missed that opportunity. Berkeley students are some of the most hard working and smart there are.[/quote]

Wow you are dumb.  Managing undergrads is not a skill to develop and this is not the point of grad school or a postdoc.

If you want to babysit with your free time you can find some toddlers.[/quote]

You have such an overinflated sense of yourself and a demeanor that sucks. A grad student just starting is not that much better than an undergraduate. Being a mentor at all stages of one’s career is not only rewarding but also helps you grow professionally.

Wondering what kid of relation you had with your adviser, maybe you’re just modeling behavior you were exposed to. I guarantee you’re more useless to a professor when you start than those annoying undergrads were to you. Also your adviser may be looking to screen future candidates for his lab, he asks you to mentor a few students, then that’s your duty as a member of his research team to do it, not sure why you think that’s even controversial.[/quote]

Mentoring undergrads is not the duty of a grad student or postdoc.  Wowsers.  They are funded to conduct research, submit grants, and publish papers.

For faculty, this falls more in line with their job expectations, depending on the circumstances.  [b]However, a good faculty member isn't going to weigh down their grad students and postdocs with undergrad mentoring.[/b][/quote]

Are you for real? Now graduate students expect that faculty don’t bother them with distractions? Wondering if you ever had a real job besides academia.

You got your facts wrong, the university is funded to conduct the research, the professor leads the research team and the graduate students execute the tasks. Most grants have an [b]educational[/b], dissemination and outreach component that your adviser committed his team to carry on. Note that he didn’t say he’ll do it himself, but his research team as a whole. The granting agency doesn’t care only about the papers, future workforce development is part of their mission, which is why congress allocates money to those agencies. But no, you can’t be bothered with that crap, cause you know better and undergrads annoy you. Seriously, just grow up.

In real life you do what the person paying your salary asks you to do. [/quote]

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