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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How about a rule where teachers and admin need to respond to parents within three days.  We have teachers and admin who clearly read the messages and don’t respond.  How about teachers needing to consistently post assignments online so parents know what’s going on.   How about teachers grade within a week so kids know how they are doing?   We have teachers who still have not graded or posted in a month.   Not ok.  Kids can only be successful if teachers also put in the effort. [/quote]

Most teachers are putting in the effort.  But that effort requires time.  We’ve done this math multiple times but here it is again: 
150 students x 5min an assignment =750mins / 60mins in an hour = 12.5 hours .  Thats the total time to grade one assignment.  If a teacher got one class period free per day let’s say 47mins x 5 days =235 mins /60 =3.9 hours.  That’s how much time they had in their work week to potentially grade. There other 8.6 hours comes from their personal life.[/quote]

Out of seven teachers, three are putting in effort. Getting a month behind on grading and not responding to parents is not ok. [/quote]

Thank those three. They gave up their weekends and evenings for you.

The other four are giving you what they are paid for.[/quote]

Some, yes, some no. It’s their job.  Not ok to not grade.  As of today still no grades posted for the past month.  [/quote]

I’m a DP, but I’m happy to repeat the math for you:

I have 150 students. A writing assignment can take 15 minutes to grade. That’s 37.5 hours of grading. I get approximately 3.5 hours a week of time to get my work done.

And that’s just one assignment. Just one. That doesn’t include emails I need to respond to, reports I have to update, plans I have to revise.

So literally half my job has to be done on my own time. Over 30 hours a week.

So… SHOULD this be my job?

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How do you think your students will improve without written feedback? I get that it takes time, but isn’t this a huge part of learning and the job?[/quote]

I am a middle school teacher.  My students do not read the feedback.  They look at their grade and come up to me and say 'why did I get a B/C?'  I ask them about looking at the feedback and they say nope.  [/quote]

Out of curiosity, can the parents see the feedback?  One thing I find frustrating is that as a parent I can rarely see the feedback.  Otherwise I would go over it with my kid.  “the teacher says you need a better into sentence.  Can you think of a good into sentence for this paragraph?”   Etc.  I do think it’s hard for 11-13 year olds to look at written feedback and internalize it.  I work with 25-30 hear olds and I am often told they want oral feedback, not just my written feedback on their work product.  I get ghat teachers don’t have time to sit down with every kid but I feel like there is missed opposition for parents to partner with teachers in this effort.[/quote]

I receive that feeeback in the work place too - don’t just send written comments. Make appointments to sit and go through the document to explain the reasons for high and low level changes. Personally I didn’t post it earlier because it’s clear the teachers posting here don’t care about such things or don’t want to spend the time. [/quote]

We know that would be amazing.  But, where do you think the time would come from to sit down with 150 students one-on-one to go over the feedback?  Seriously.  What would the other 33 students be doing during that time?  How many days would you allocate time for this feedback?  Please stop blaming teachers.  Blame MCPS for not giving teachers enough time to do the job you want them to.  It is not the teachers fault.  It is on MCPS.  Until parents start complaining to MCPS nothing will change.  Teachers need more time to do their jobs.  That is plain and simple.  [/quote]

Hs teachers have always had this number of students and made it work.  Kids cannot improve without feedback and the opportunity to correct mistakes. [/quote]

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