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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Is Hamas terrible? Of course.

But no matter how you spin it, the IDF is a hundred thousand times worse. [/quote]

The IDF is responsible for killing more innocent people than Hamas so no one has a fair argument to your point. This being said; the only reason the IDF is responsible for killing more innocent people than Hamas is because they have the resources to kill more innocent people. If Hamas had access to those same resources, they'd kill the same amount of innocent people. They're all hateful murderous people who need to be eliminated one way or another so that the peaceful and loving Palestinians and Jews can live side by side in harmony.[/quote]

I agree with what you said, but to be clear - their issue is with Israel and the only reason they have any grievance at all with the U.S. is directly fueled by and directly related to our blind, unconditional support of Israel’s policies and actions that have gravely harmed the Palestinian people for decades.

There are plenty of radical, extremist Zionists that persist with the blatant lie that these people in the ME naturally hate Americans and that it has nothing to do with our enabling of Israel.

Let me be clear: that is an absolute, intentional lie. It is 100% about Israel.

The Iran hostage crisis was about our corruption and meddling in the region, but also about our enabling of Israel. Beirut was about Israel. 9/11 was about Israel. All of the smaller attacks in between have been about Israel.

When will the radical, extremist Zionists stop telling us to ignore what we’re hearing directly from the horse’s mouth?[/quote]

DP.

This is quite misleading, as it entirely omits a wide variety of causes of anti-US sentiment in the reason.

Support for Israel certainly contributes to anti-US sentiment in the region, but it is FAR from the only factor.

Don’t believe me? Read bin Laden’s writings.[/quote]

No, it’s not misleading.

If you think our economic interests in the oil fields of KSA would have been sufficient to summon the contempt and disdain that led to 9/11, you are simply wrong on the facts. The emotional root of any anti-Western sentiment in the region is and always has been the result of our blind, unconditional, and corrupt support of Israel and its policies and actions.

Do you seriously believe that our system of rotating only Jewish interlocutors and dyed-in-the-wool radical, extremist Zionists to represent the U.S. in the region for the past however many decades is lost on those people?

They can do math. FFS, they invented or co-invented nearly all of the math underlying our entire civilization!

Let’s see. Endless conflict. One-sided slaughters underwritten by the U.S. for decades. And when we want to pretend that we are actually honest brokers, we magically pluck from our diplomatic roster someone who happens to have a dog in the fight. 2% of the goddamned population, but apparently nobody else is better suited for the job? GTFOH.

Support for Israel has led to thousands of dead Americans in OEF and OIF, tens of thousands more with lifelong injuries, as well as hundreds of thousands of dead in Afghanistan and Iraq. Enough already.[/quote]

Simplistic and obviously partisan analysis.

Again, read bin Laden’s own words. Oh, and pls elaborate on how US support for Israel explains the Iran-Iraq war, Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait, Isis, and, while you’re at it, Charlie Hebdo and Rushdie.

Israel is certainly a problem for the region, but it’s hardly the sole cause of instability, conflict, or hatred for America.[/quote]

Lol … are you OK?

None of what you mentioned actually involved acts or events in furtherance of “hatred of America”.

Iran - Iraq war? You think that conflict was evidence of “hatred of America” that had nothing to do with Israel?

Iraq’s Kuwait invasion? That invasion was evidence of “hatred of America” that had nothing to do with Israel?

ISIS … ? Oh, you mean the clumsy “Israel trues to train and fund militants to produce regime change because the U.S. isn’t moving quickly enough” caper?

Charlie Hebdo? What did that attack (which, in fairness, was done in response to provocative content, so it’s not like we don’t know what instigated it) have to do with the “hatred of the U.S.”?

Rushdie? Same as Hebdo - what do the provocative writings of a British national have to do with “hatred of the U.S.”?

You’re really terrible at trying to pretend that you’re not here to repel criticisms of Israel. Pick another hobby.[/quote]

Not surprisingly, you missed the point in its entirety.

Reconsider.[/quote]

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