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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Some of you are really jaded. You act like no women has ever been happily married to a non-jerk before. That's really sad.

I'm not saying everyone wants a husband and children, but my husband and children enrich my life in so many ways and I would be very lonely and sad without them. Yes it's more "work" too - but I honestly don't know what I would do with all of my free time instead. No hobby takes that much time![/quote]

This place is an echo chamber of unhappy women. It serves basically the same function as an incel message board in reverse; it highlights the negative experiences of some people and encourages people reading it to identify with those negative experiences. It is, very often, pretty much removed from reality. Look at the conversation on housework and childcare. On average, women in households with children do more of those things than men, it's true. Men do, on average, about 16.5 hours per week of housework and childcare and women do around 31. Men, in turn, do paid work for 38.4 hours per week, to women's 21.6. The result is that men's combination of paid and unpaid work is slightly higher than women's, but overall it's essentially even. 
Source: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2013/03/14/chapter-6-time-in-work-and-leisure-patterns-by-gender-and-family-structure/ which draws on the American Time Used Study

That's not the story you get here though. The story you get here both ignores the fact that men, on average, are doing housework and childcare (a couple hours a day on average) and that they're doing paid work enough more than women to more than offset the extra unpaid labor at home.[/quote]

The basis of this thread is a WSj article that looks at national trends and provides supporting data.

It's not like this was just somebody randomly opining on the topic.

Also, the reason the article exists is because the relationship between men working and earning and childcare/household contributions is breaking down[/quote]

Yes. So when the man gets paid more, there is a balance between the work that both partners provide, paid and unpaid. However,  research has shown that men do NOT increase their non-paid labor in the house when women get paid more and/or have more intense schedules. Hence why the frustration of so many women who work their a* off, make the most $, and come home to take care of an extra toddler in form of a man. A man-child is not very sexually attractive.  This is the reality for the future, as women graduate from college at higher rates and are more successful and will make more money. 
I don't hate man. I'm happily married with two grown sons. But if I were to have a daughter,  I would absolutely disapprove that she'd marry someone from a lower socioeconomic background and/or someone who doesn't make a lot of money and is ambitious.  The data show that she'd probably have to do two jobs, while her H would contribute incrementally to the labor. [/quote]
my 30 year old niece dumped a guy because he was unambitious and lazy,  at home and at work.  Double whammy.

She is now married to a plumber who is ambitious and does a lot at home.  She has a masters degree.[/quote]

Plumbers can make a lot of money especially if they own their own business.[/quote]

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