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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.[/quote]

It’s so bad.

That’s why all the dcum moms fight like heck  to send their kids to private schools.

There’s entire forums here dedicated to getting their kids into private schools because public schools are so poorly run, dangerous, etc, and the quality of education so abysmal.

Total hypocrites.

Send your children to public school, run by the DOE. You won’t! You’d rather die.[/quote]
For the millionth effing time: the Federal DOE does not set curriculums for local schools. If your schools suck it's because of the state or local board, combined with - I'll say it - bad parenting that doesn't value education. [/quote]

But they do, sort of.  For one, DOE created No Child Left Behind, which forced every single public school in every state to make standardized tests the focus of the curriculum, and then report those results to the DOE and face punishment for not scoring high enough.  Then they put out Common Core (a curriculum) and forced us all to align with that to one degree or another.  The current state of education - abysmal - was nearly entirely shaped by the testing policies of NCLB, which teachers said then and are still saying did tremendous damage to the system, and to students.[/quote]

This! People don’t understand how devastating this has been to education in the US. It used to be most school kids took standardized tests like the Iowa Test of Basic skills or state created test that had results on percentile ranks so teachers and parents could figure out where their child ranked in reading, spelling, math calculation and math word problems.

Starting in around 2001 the DOR mandated tests where students had ti meet a set standard. But the cut points are ridiculous. Parents don’t get a percentile rank. So many kids don’t pass because it is an arbitrary cut point where passing is fir each grade.

In order to have the maximum number of students pass schools no longer have teachers teach novels. That isn’t tested. Just short passages so all the focus is  now on reading short passages. Basic calculation skills are no longer emphasized. [/quote]

There hasn't been a single standardized test that my kids have taken that they considered hard. If kids can't pass these low bar exams, that's not the fault of teachers and schools. It's the fault of parents who aren't teaching their kids from infancy good habits and later on making sure their kids are doing the work. I'm sure there are many parents like myself who wish that the standardized tests were harder so that it could differentiate better instead of trying to make the lower 25%ile feel better.[/quote]

I was a teacher.  I just want to thank you for making sure that your kids came to school so prepared.  We don't need to teach kids like yours anything.  In fact, we don't teach them anything, because we are too busy trying to get the unprepared ones up to grade level.  Yours get to sit at their desk and read a book quietly, and it's honestly such a relief to have at least a few kids we can ignore.  Congrats![/quote]

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